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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:51 AM by Mozzy
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Well here's my two cents worth. I used the "fill" function in MS Paint to see what's making up the background.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 11:54 AM by Mozzy
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 12:27 PM by orange-light
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exacltly my results - the first one
have tried everything i know about photoshop to "create" the results that anonymos got
no way!!
edit:
tried a bit more
and can get as well the strange horizon - buildings or what ever
won.t say that it is only artefact,
even if they would claim it would be an original photo, you wouldn.t know if they would have messed up with it!
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 12:36 PM by skibtz
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Originally posted by Mikeraphone
If NASA and the US Government faked the moon landing, believe me, they have enough power to fake the photos.
It is possible that at the time they rushed it all through and made mistakes. There could also have been those on the payroll that disagreed with the
secrecy and allowed clues to slip through.
At the time it is possible that NASA did not anticipate the personal computer in almost every home with imaging software that would provide any person
the opportunity to tweak the settings and highlight the dark spots.
The belief would have been that public consumption would have been through pre-doctored images in newspapers, magazines and tv reports.
In my opinion the above is a far more plausable than the US landing a man on the Moon almost 40 years ago.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 12:55 PM by Anomic of Nihilism
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This pic looks SHOCKINGLY similar to a painting done by a former Astronaut. I have spent the last half hour trying to find the damn thing but have
been unsuccessful.
The painting is of a landscape, VERY much like that one, with and astronaut in the foreground, and a 'range' of dome-like structures on the
horizon.
Richard Hoagland goes on about this pic quite abit to support his Glass dome theory...
Here is some of his latest, regarding "Prism" effects in Apollo images.
In this painting i mentioned, the top of the domes have the same elevation as the 'features' in the above Image.
The SHAPE of the objects in the painting were also very telling, as they were EXACTLY the SAME "pudding" shape as this pic below (Of which Hoagland
also uses to further his agument)
If anyone knows the painting of which i speak, any HELP in finding it to post here for comparison, would be wickedly appriciated
Cheers
AoN
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:01 PM by GodMode
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Look this is getting tiring and its already SO in syndication its laughable...we WENT to the MOON in 1969 and furthermore we returned several times
after that...why is it everyone thinks we went JUST the one time, if at all?!
Proof you say? Sure! Guys familiar with the scientists that measure the distance from earth to moon? and how its done? well thats right we left a
reflector up there to bounce laser signatures off of to gauge distance between the 2 celestial bodies.
why do people still insist we never went..talk about selling short the abilities and vision of humans...AND the memory of the brave that died whilst
going up there for us all...shame!
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:09 PM by skibtz
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No one has done anything in my name unless I have personally asked them to do so.
I would rather the money wasted on faked/real Moon landings was spent providing a free national health system and a social infrastructure that
eliminated poverty and crime.
I dont get a hard on from space travel my friend when people are dying right here on planet Earth.
Wake up. Prioritise.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:19 PM by hande
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If moon travel was hoax it was very very good hoax, because we can t say TODAY it was hoax or not for sure.
Still, moon pictures etc. looks usually very odd, sharp lines, clear dark horizons. Many pictures look like very good planned studio photos.
Hmm.. Nice topic, moon is very interesting place.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:20 PM by GodMode
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you American?! If you are, what are you talking about? this is a Capitalistic society...if you cant hack it then move to a socialistic/communistic
country and enjoy! This is survival of the smartest/fittest if you are too weak to get ahead i suggest trying Canada with its 29% unemployment rate.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:24 PM by skibtz
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Originally posted by GodMode
reply to post by skibtz
you American?! If you are, what are you talking about? this is a Capitalistic society...if you cant hack it then move to a socialistic/communistic
country and enjoy! This is survival of the smartest/fittest if you are too weak to get ahead i suggest trying Canada with its 29% unemployment rate.
ALERT - MODS
Please give GodMode an Applause - I suggest 50000 points.
An astounding, well-researched post providing a peerless insight in to GodMode's existence.
Beautiful.
If I could give you some of my points, I would.
p.s. If you check my avatar. That's it. There on the left, you will see where I am from. Peace dude.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 01:55 PM by gopher mines
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It looks to me like someone used the eraser tool in Photoshop to erase the top part of the image and then got squeamish near the horizon as to not
erase part of the moon image. It probably looked fine to them when it was completed, but when you turn the brightness all the way up, you can see the
difference. That coupled with tons of jpg artifacts..
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 02:14 PM by macr59
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Guys, thanks very much for the response. It has been brilliant reading and a real eye opener. Didnt realize there were so many “clever clogs” in
here.
Much to my amusement today, I have spent a few hours following links, downloading photo’s and trying to get the same effect as I did on the first
one. What a waste of time that was. Looks like the theory that the Anniversary photo is a very poor Scan, Copy or whatever, of the original.
However, where is the original?? So far today I have found 5 photo’s, 4 of which are “High Res”. I only managed to get 2 photos to appear
similar out of the 5.
I restarted with the original photo, where I first seen the anomaly
Using MS OFFICE 2007 Picture Manager, I edited the photo by adjusting the Midtone to 100 and the Brightness to 30, the result are the same my first
post.
Results are:
Although not as good as my first conversion, you can still make out the horizon artifacts.
The next image was linked by Internos, scroll down to AS11-37-5454
Again using Office Picture Manager and using the same Midtone and Brightness adjustments
The Results are:
These are the only 2 photos that I can get any horizon clutter in. All the high res are almost faultless, but, even they differ slightly when
brightened.
So it looks like the majority of the photos on the web are all copies of copies or scans of scans.
Will we ever find the truth!!
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 02:15 PM by macr59
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Sorry guys, but i aint got enough posts to upload the photo's here.
Does this count as 1. haha
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 02:50 PM by Mintwithahole.
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The dome like object behind Alan Bean is nothing more than simple lens flare. Exactly the same shape flare can be found in other Apollo pictures. An
example of this is AS16-113-18360.
It's annoying when you find the same old nonsense being churned up constantly.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 02:56 PM by Ox
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It ALMOST looks like a tree line.. I'll take the heat from the skeptics. But that's just my opinion.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 03:58 PM by Macphisto
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Play with the contrast as well as brightness, and you'll get a better look.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 04:00 PM by Boom Slice
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First off, great find OP. I read much of Hoagy's work and while I am still on the fence on some of his claims, there is little doubt in my mind
about these glass-like structures on the moon. There is a lot of photographic evidence of their existence along with various testimonies of people
who have seen photographs of these objects in detail and some who have even airbrushed them out for NASA.
They are there, we just need an independent space agency to verify their existance, since our civilian one has made it a point to airbrush these out
and cover them up from the public for whatever reason (and yes there are many practical reasons for a coverup, none of which I agree with, as this
would be THE most important discovery in our ENTIRE history).
By 2020, when the second race to the moon is really underway, I hope that the truth will be unveiled, as it is clearly in humanity's best interest.
However, I feel this conspiracy will go on, until an independent space organization investigates the claims first hand. Let's hope we won't have to
wait THAT long.
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Godmode, I totally feel you on the whole "we didn't go to the moon" thing. It really is pathetic that this conspiracy (created in part by NASA)
still exists on any level. It is verifiable fact that we went to the moon, and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply mis-informed or ignorant.
As far as the importance of space research, there really is nothing more important to the long term survival of the human species than space research.
We have learned so much about our planet, our solar system, our cosmos, and we have so much more to learn, all of which have practical,
civilization-saving foundations. Without space research we'd still be ripping holes in the Ozone with CFCs at alarming rates, which is just one,
very practical, recent application of this field. Oh and satellites? Yea, they've proven to be completely useless!
In all honesty, there will always be disease, poverty, and war...these are inevitable, since we are imperfect beings at a very young age in our
developement. It is impossible for a government, any government, to properly solve all of these problems fully in the near future, regardless of how
much money is devoted to these causes. Ideally, we could put an end to all of the problems of humanity, but this is likely hundreds or thousands of
years away even in perfect conditions. In the meantime, we need to figure out a way to get off this planet and colonize space on a wide scale before
its too late.
This planet is amazingly fragile. Our lives are amazingly fragile. Nothing has more important implications on a long term scale, than the world's
space programs (which, btw, all agree we went to the moon  ). We are one natural disaster away right now from being NOTHING, everything we have ever
accomplished, everyone we have ever loved, will be gone. Space research can and hopefully will prevent this obliteration of our species, which IS in
fact inevitable if we do nothing and give out free handouts instead.
Edit to add: Internos, you are THE man! Just had to give you some props on all your diligent work that you do for this site. ArMap, you too! Keep it
up fellas!
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 04:23 PM by skibtz
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Originally posted by Boom Slice
It really is pathetic that this conspiracy (created in part by NASA) still exists on any level. It is verifiable fact that we went to the moon, and
anyone who thinks otherwise is simply mis-informed or ignorant.
Welcome to the No.1 conspiracy site on the web.
You sound hard done by. Surprised somewhat.
Are you the kind of person who walks in to a porn shop and goes over to the man at the counter to complain because you see titties on display?
Seems like it to me!
As far as the importance of space research...
Whoah there!
The Race to the Moon and Space Research are two seperate entities my friend.
One was a political "my dick's bigger than yours" fiasco while the other is a worthy addition to supplement human evolution.
In all honesty, there will always be disease, poverty, and war...these are inevitable, since we are imperfect beings at a very young age in our
developement.
You may be in early developement[sic] but there are those of us who feel we have moved on somewhat and that there is a massive importance in the
people alive today.
This planet is amazingly fragile. Our lives are amazingly fragile.
And so is your argument for ignoring the plight of those who need it today so we can spend billions on the people of tomorrow who may not even be
around now we are:
one natural disaster away right now from being NOTHING
Edit to add: Internos, you are THE man! Just had to give you some props on all your diligent work that you do for this site. ArMap, you too!
Keep it up fellas!
wtf! - and what about me?!!  
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 04:28 PM by re22666
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can someone explain to me why, when there is overwhelming evidence that we could not have even gone to the moon, let alone have. but that is crazy.
but some jpg artifacts in ALL the darkest parts of a photo must be cities on the moon?
i love a good conspiracy story but to throw out a semi-logical one in favor of a really really cool one seems rather empty. i need proof we were ever
on the moon before i can get excited of the same kinds of graphical artifacts i see everyday in photos of things that do NOT have cities hiding in the
shadows.
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reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 04:50 PM by daddymax
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The moon DOES rotate after all
I believe this to be almost incorrect...I am certain the moon rotates around the Earth, but the moon itself does not rotate. This is why we always
look at the same face of the moon...Just for sake of a question...why is it that our moon does not rotate on an axis?
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