Moon Landing Photo

Originally posted by TheOracle
everybody talking about artifacts ad alien city, what about it was filmed in the desert and a city was visible in the horizon and they brushed it? I firmly believe that we never went to the Moon so that could be it.

Dont buy that for a second...if your going to fake multiple moon landings your going to do it under cover a la somewhere like Area 51 out of sight of anyone and anything in a secure building to reduce as much as possible anything to hint at a coverup.
As for the Moon Landings being faked im sorry im a sceptic

Originally posted by rightuos
The anniversary version showing the formations has been heavily edited, I've been toying with the full res version I pulled from here.

history.nasa.gov...

I have been able to recreate formations but not to the extent of the OPs version although I really haven't been trying all that hard either.

Thanks for the link. I've been trying to mess around with that to get something like the OP, but due to it being a better quality image haven't had much luck either. Of course I'm not exactly any good at image manipulation, and don't have photoshop. Though I do have GIMP, and this is what I got from it.


I got some nice rectangles and so on, but no building shapes. Also I noticed that with the brightness and contrast changed, it seems you can see what look like stars, though that was with the settings virtually maxed.

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Good post macr59, strrd and flggd, there are indeed things at the horizon in that picture as also in many others that need special attention.

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Always enjoy your input internos, great work as usual.
It definitely shows clearly that there are things at the horizon that needed some airbrushing back then in order to prevent that we could see them, no doubt about that.

Originally posted by MrVertigo
This looks a lot like the stuff Richard Hoagland has been talking about. He believes they are giant glass structures, shattered after millenia of meteor impacts.

Those structures/buildings are indeed where it is all about in my opinion MrVertigo.

www.projectcamelot.net...

Here is a very interesting testimony about buildings on the moon.

Testimony of Sgt. Karl Wolfe US Air Force September 2000
He had a top secret crypto clearance and while working at a NSA facility at Langley AFB, he was shown highly classified images from the lunar orbiter that scanned the back side of the moon, showing clearly an alien base with huge towers, domes and mushroom shaped buildings.

Source; The book "Disclosure" from the Disclosure project.

Here is more of him.

www.ufocasebook.com...

Originally posted by Shino
The same type of 'compression' distortion that people think are objects in the distance can be seen in the shadow of the lander.

Can you explain to me why those 'compression' distortions isn’t scattered over the whole horizon?


[edit on 6/8/08 by spacevisitor]

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it looks like Las Vegas w/o her lights on.

This is possibly evidence that Doug Hoagland is on about in his books eg Dark Mission about there being glass dome fragments and artifacts on the moon. He has written lots of stuff about it - google him and see what you can find. Cheers Julieastronaut

Originally posted by spacevisitor
Can you explain to me why those 'compression' distortions isn’t scattered over the whole horizon?

Aren't they all over the horizon?

A repost of the negative image posted by krzyspmac on top of page 2:

I'm leaning in the direction of JPEG artifacts, but could someone tell me why the entire sky isn't covered in artifacts? I do see some of it at the very top, but not in the middle.

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It looks like some of you are working with a highly compressed JPEG and others aren't.

I downloaded the one from the original post and don't see any structures at all. I've run it through various Photoshop processes and found nothing unusual.

The structures that everyone is seeing look like JPEG artifacts (as others have said).

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Because a black uniform area compresses well. It's a big black rectangle, not many informations are stored. A dark gradient with irregularities compresses badly, Another possibility is that this image was a GIF at some point, with color quantization eliminating the least visible, darkest colors.

This is the Apollo 11 mission. There are countless images of the landing site (Mare Tranquillitatis) taken from Earth, from Earth orbit, from Lunar orbit, and from the actual landing site. There were images taken from before manned space flight and there are still images of that region being captured now.

Perhaps it would be prudent to broaden the scope of your investigation to include additioinal imagery of the area in question?

Please note that the "artifacts" are beyond the horizon. The horizon is so many miles away. To tower above the horizon the "artifacts" would have to be such and such a hight. (big)

"Artifacts" that large should be visible in other images. Or, conversely, the removal of "artifacts" that large from existing images might leave traces detectable with the modern software you people are using here.

Interesting find OP.

I think I recognise that horizon as facing West in Central Park. I have been known to be wrong though.

Maybe one day we will actually send a man to the Moon.

It looks to me that they used a copy that was not the best (a bad scanning job, maybe, due to the left area blue tint), and because of that they got a sky that did not look like they wanted.

So they used some tool (cloning toll, pain brush, whatever) to cover the sky, avoiding getting to close to the horizon so they would not erase any part of it.

The result was a perfectly black sky (where the tool was used) and the sky as it looked like on the rest of the photo. The shadows suffer from the same problem, as probably does the rest, but only in the shadows is this visible.

PS: The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth is working, and the image will be available here for some time.

If NASA and the US Government faked the moon landing, believe me, they have enough power to fake the photos.

You really think if they staged the whole thing they'd let out a photo that shows proof?

Or, if you really believe we have the technology to have bases on the moon do you believe we wouldnt have the technology to fake the image or simply paint over them with a pure black photoshop brush?

I mean seriously, this is not proof of anything other than artifacts in an image. It looks to me like it was blurred at some stage and sharpened. It is to do with the way the colors are rendered in the image because the same artifacts are present in the lander shadow.

These are not buildings.

I think everyone here realizes that the rectangular quality of the evidence is a result of compression, as others have pointed out the same patterns emerge in the shadow of the lander when you crank the image enough.
This doesn't alter the fact that it's pretty anomalous for there to be a slightly brighter blue area just above the horizon. Whether this is due to structures, atmosphere, some sort of mirage, or image processing.

The real question here, i think, is why is this not present n the high-res versions

What sort of image processing artefacting could cause this and why is it only present in this image? If the anniversary pictures were processed in the same way we should see similar things in the other images, but we don't.

Originally posted by MrVertigo
I think everyone here realizes that the rectangular quality of the evidence is a result of compression, as others have pointed out the same patterns emerge in the shadow of the lander when you crank the image enough.

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What sort of image processing artefacting could cause this and why is it only present in this image? If the anniversary pictures were processed in the same way we should see similar things in the other images, but we don't.

The same type of artefacts can be found in other images too. I tried this photoshoping out on other images taken on the same view with a slightly different angle, the artefacts are there, but differ a bit in shape. Maybe a sign of brush strokes, but probably just compression artefacts.

I believe you are sitting on the answer, since the other images i tried this on, are of the same size. All of them. If i could get hold of high-res pics of the other angles too, it would probably show up to be nothing.

Hi btw, i think this is my first post, even though i've been hanging here for a while, reading

I think that (a) nablator has covered a lot of issues concerning JPEG compression and what he suggests sounds right (b) try to experiment with your digital camera, shooting a bright object against a dark background, then trying to compress (even Outlook does it for you, when you choose to "send" a smaller image to yourself) -- you'll be amazed how badly the boundaries of areas of high contrast will be artifacted!

And finally, when you subject an already noisy image to a high-contrast filter, you amplify the noise. That's just silly.

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I agree: it has been proven that the image is the worst of all the ones available: it contains not just jpeg compression artifacts but also color anomalies: we don't know how that "special edition" copy was obtained, but definately at this point, is no longer worthy of further investigations.
It's just a crappy quality version of AS11-37-5454.

ArMaP: thanks for the link: it was down in the last 16 hoers, it's working fine for me too

I think this is just a result of the processing. Notice how the effect only occurs where the image is dark or totally black. Believe me if there was something on the horizon at Mare Tranquilitas NASA would have done a far better job of masking it out.

hey infernos and the op please look at this pic its on the same site/list as the op
could you do the thingy with the picture and tell me whats in the sky and whats in the creator .... the picture number is: AS11-40-5954 what i can see is a light
blue object pointing diagonal upwards to the left and there are some sus looking lines /objects in the shadow of the creator.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by ST SIR 86]

Originally posted by ST SIR 86
hey infernos and the op please look at this pic its on the same site/list as the op
could you do the thingy with the picture and tell me whats in the sky and whats in the creator .... the picture number is: AS11-40-5954 what i can see is a light
blue object pointing diagonal upwards to the left and there are some sus looking lines /objects in the shadow of the creator.

[edit on 6-8-2008 by ST SIR 86]

Here you go


from the hi res scan, that can be found here: AS11-40-5954

Neil has run about 60 meters east of the LM to look at East Crater. The crater is about 30 meters in diameter and Neil is taking a partial pan from the WSW rim. This is the first frame of that pan. It shows the north and east wall and a pile of debris in the bottom. The Gold camera, which Neil has brought out with him, is at the left. Markus Mehring notes that the flat dome on the horizon near the left edge may be a rim segment in the distinctive cluster of craters just outside the landing ellipse to the north.

Enhanced animation:


i'd like to see someone else's opinion, but in my opinion is some reflection or refraction on dust.

ArMaP: thank YOU


[edit on 6/8/2008 by internos]