Obama says if Americans inflated their tires properly we would save oil!, page 10


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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 12:43 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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My baloney has a first name, it's B...A...R...A...K.

My baloney has a second name, it's O...B...A...M...A.

What a typical political runaround answer that was for him to give.

He's sure good at saying absolutely nothing, isn't he?

I know where he can shove his tire pressure gauge, and it sure isn't in his ear.

No, I'm not a Republican, just so you know, I just see through political crap when I see it.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 09:33 AM by weedwhacker
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Well, Spartan....just an observation of my own, for a moment.

All politicians spew 'politics' out of their pieholes. The difference, in my mind is....between the ones who outright LIE, and the once who parse sentences, for political expediency.

The question here is, indeed, about saving a few MPG by proper automobile maintenance. THIS is not a joke, as the McCain camp have tried to make it....again, they step on their own Johnsons, since the record shows that the Republican side have said this for years.

A tempest in a teapot.

The dirty, dirty politics, especially in adverts....THAT is a true sign of character. There is a recent McCain ad, off-topic, but having to do with Obama's voting record, and it is an out-and-out lie. But, it uses that "T" word, so it's trying to deflect attention. Right out of McCain's piehole saying "I approve this message".

A little more off-topic...Obama was not my choice, from the phalanx of contenders....neither was Ms. Bill Clinton for that matter. Wes Clark would have been fantastic, and unbeatable, from what I know. But, could be wrong, and it don't matter much now, do it?

We have two choices, this cycle. A doddering old fool, 'Mr. Crankypants', or a young vibrant smooth-talker with the gift of gab.

Not to dismiss McCain's service in the Military, though there is some question about his behavior whilst a POW (sorry, third off-topic point).

Just for the sake of our World image, I'll stick with the ethnic guy, even if I cross my fingers while voting.....


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:11 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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For Barack Obama to state that "if every American were to properly inflate" in order to be cost effective, is as ridicoulous as the people who state "if you only recycled your newspapers, we'd save an national forest" since the paper for those newspapers is sitting in some warehouse, already processed days, weeks, and month in advance.

If we as consumers were to stop listening to politicians lies, as well as corporations marketing strategies and think for a moment, before you buy into the collective B.S. for once, the world might be a better place.

The lesser of two evils, as your post is suggesting, is still evil.

Stupid is as stupid does.

One bird in hand is better that two in the bush.

There are stupid catch-phrases for almost every situation, even "if you inflate all your tires, it will solve the oil situation" fits into the stupid catch-phrase of the day now.

If only the politicians could wean themselves off of the lobbyists money, you know, legal political bribery, or surrogate bribery, the country as well as the world might be a better place, and not just a damn Nike "Just Do It" commerical.

It's a consumer run world, and the marketing guru's and corporations know it, hence why they buy the politicians votes. It's called "lobbying" which is the pretty name politicians branded "political bribery", or "surrogate bribery" in order to make it more official and legal sounding.

Everyone should have been raised to know proper tire inflation, checking your oil, and changing your spark plugs wil make your gas guzzling vehicle of choice run better, that's called preventative maintenance, but for Barack Obama to suggest it would save enough oil to stop $70 or more from hurting us at the gas pump, is only slight of hand and subtle suggestion that we are the problem, not those who wield the power to actually make the costs go down.

Let's see, last time I checked, I only control where I stop to get gas, how I drive, and actually opening the gas tank and inserting the nozzle, oh and properly inflating the tires, so I know it's not Me.

I keep an eye on the gas stations, and find the cheapest one of the day, and top it off, and the next time I need gas, I do the same again, and it's usually a different store.

I don't do brand loyalty to gas companies, never have, and never will.

Just like I don't do political brand loyalty, never have, never will.

I'm registered as an "Independant" for a reason.


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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:34 AM by weedwhacker
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I appreciate your opinion....it's just, Gov. Crist of Fla (R) said the basic same thing, just a while ago. NHTSA says it....other Repubs say it....


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:35 AM by Krieger
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Except Obama's plan works. Just ask John McCain, NASCAR, Florida Gov Crist, Bush's Energy Department, AAA, so forth. To compare something that not only works but is reasonable to some "talking point" is BS.

And hell, if only one quarter of the country did it guess what? That would be 200,000 barrels a day, STARTING TODAY! As opposed to 20 years from now when oil won't be the major energy source.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:41 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by weedwhacker
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post by SpartanKingLeonidas



I appreciate your opinion....it's just, Gov. Crist of Fla (R) said the basic same thing, just a while ago. NHTSA says it....other Repubs say it....


I know. All the politicians say what they need to say, to appease the public.

It's all about the demographics and sound-bites, and who might have a slip of the tongue in the wrong place in front of the wrong person.

Politicians wouldn't want to accidently piss off one demographic over another, unless the one they're pissing off is less likely to vote for them and or not hold as much political funding and backing for them.

Got Tire Pressure Gauge?

I'm never going to forget that as long as I live.

You know, if everyone were to buy a tire pressure gauge, and send it to the White House, when and if Barack Obama were to get elected, when we're hurting at the gas pumps again, I bet he'd get the message.

Question is, would it send the message that we're not buying his baloney, or we think he's full of hot air?

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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:53 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Krieger



Hello? NASCAR is one of those events bought and paid for by corporate sponsors, like CITGO, Shell, BP, Coca-Cola, Winton-Salem, they're going to say almost anything and everything to keep their corporate sponsors coming back.

The same thing goes for Crist, the difference between a Politician and a Stock Car, is the Politician only looks slimey and oily on the surface, whereas the Stock Car is slimey and oil beneath the surface.

Oh yeah, the Politicians don't have huge stickers all over their jackets, just in their wallets when they vote to pass a Bill.

Barack Obama, is just another corporate puppet, bought and paid for, and I'm wondering which oil company he represents verses what Bush has represented, or which McCain represents.

Again, while it's a really nice idea, that to properly inflate our tires will miracoulously save us at the the pump, everyone should have read the owners manual of their car to know that, and for someone to believe something so trivial and silly like that is purely naivete in motion.

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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 10:59 AM by Krieger
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



Again, your "opinion"(not really yours but Fox Noises) vs NASCAR, Bush own Energy Department, AAA, Crist, McCain, everyone, you lose.

And those 800,000 barrels a day starting today only counts for AMerica. If the world followed it? Hell if only 5% of the world did it we'd save millions of barrels a day.

So again, your/Fox Noise's opinion vs reality... You lose.

Obama's plan works. The experts agree. Only the most rabid anti-anything Obama disagree.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 11:02 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Krieger



Okay, you've seriously mis-spoke there, to believe I believe anything Fox has to say, and I'm not an "Obama-hater" either.

I can stand any politician, period. They're all professional liars.

I know politics inside out and upside down, it's not an merely an opinion.



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reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 11:04 AM by Krieger
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas



So you're saying you're just that Anti Obama? You don't need Fox Noise to feed you BS you make your own? Wow.

Anyways,

OBAMA'S PLAN=800,000 BARRELS A DAY STARTING TODAY
MCBUSH'S PLAN=200,000 BARRELS A DAY STARTING 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN OIL WON'T BE THE MAJOR FUEL SOURCE.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 11:10 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by Krieger
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post by SpartanKingLeonidas



So you're saying you're just that Anti Obama? You don't need Fox Noise to feed you BS you make your own? Wow.

Anyways,

OBAMA'S PLAN=800,000 BARRELS A DAY STARTING TODAY
MCBUSH'S PLAN=200,000 BARRELS A DAY STARTING 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN OIL WON'T BE THE MAJOR FUEL SOURCE.


As I stated previously, Krieger, I don't like any politician, so don't misquote what I said.

Nothing is more simple as a tire gauge resolving an issue which is easily sidestepped.

A tire gauge is not going to resolve our nations dependancy on overseas oil.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 11:17 AM by Krieger
Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by Krieger
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post by SpartanKingLeonidas




A tire gauge is not going to resolve our nations dependancy on overseas oil.


Then its a good thing that isn't Obama's Plan.

Obama's Plan is first of course very simple and helps now. Tire pressure and engine tune ups.

He ALSO will crackdown on speculators, eliminate the Enron Loophole, force oil companies to drill on lands they lease or give up those leases so a company who will drill can have them, push for Hydrocell, Solar, Hybrid, and electrical cars. Solar, wind, and nuclear energy to replace coal and natural gas.

But his first plan is like 2+2=4. Only people like you who are so Anti Obama will steal math books to change them to say 2+2=3.


reply posted on 9-8-2008 @ 11:27 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Krieger



I'm assuming you made a mistake there with the quote tags, since I know I only said one sentence in all that.

You can edit your posts, within a certain time frame.



As Obama stated there, one person asked what they can do to help, and he responded to them use a tire guage and properly inflate their tires.

While that's a novel concept, it's not going to resolve the issues as a nation that need to be fixed.

Wow, you're so "Pro-Obama", that anyone who actually knows how to think for themselves is automatically the enemy.

To suggest that I would steal math books to change the numbers, suggests that I'm a dishonest person, so it seems you're taking this down to a personal level.

Are you really going to get personal in here on something so silly as a tire gauge?

Again, I've stated previously, and I'll state it again, I can not stand any politician.

Math books should be printed correctly, not edited by politicians.

*No Math Books Were Erased And Re-Written For The Posting Of This Topic*



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