We see them when they want us to see them. They have control over who sees and who doesn't and when. You can be in a crowd all looking in the same direction and some will see, some won't at the discretion of those in the craft. It's a mind lock/unlock thing.

I realise this sounds dubious and unprovable, just my 2 cents.

I believe its possible that UFOs are cloaking capable, whether it is of alien nature or not. But if it is of alien nature, I think the theory is more plausible, simply because if they have mastered space travel to the degree that it would take to get to Earth, then cloaking really is not out of reach technologically.

Animals are more in tune with their natural senses than humans are. They don't necessarily think, they just react based on instincts. Their instincts usually are right. We take the time to think things out and end up over thinking, and the result is sometimes a negative one, or one we weren't looking or hoping for.

Animals can see and sense things that humans may not be able to see or sense. They may not necessarily know why they are reacting or what it is that they are seeing or sensing, but they know enough to get out of the way or leave. This can be proved by the many documented cases of animals leaving an area that is about to experience an earthquake.

UFOs exist, by definition. Whether or not they are of alien nature is the real question and is up for debate. They may contain cloaking devices, and those devices may sometimes fail, which could be why we see UFOs. However, it could be, also, that whoever is behind these UFOs wants to be seen. Whether it is humans, who would use it for some sort of conditioning or fear agenda, or aliens, possibly for some disclosure or awareness agenda, or perhaps another agenda that is beyond our comprehension or awareness.

I have not personally experienced anything like you are describing, but I have seen a star fade and blur, only to return to its normal appearance minutes later. Why this happened, I don't know.

This is an interesting topic. There are many things we don't, can't and probably never will understand. This may be one of them.

[edit on 8/5/08 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Heike,

I think you may be on to something. Just last night I was watching the sky and a group of four "stars" in a triangular formation were actually blinking on and off. Last week I was outside my house in broad daylight talking to a neighbor when just above the treeline over the steet I saw the flash of a silver sphere shaped object accelerate at a 45 degree angle VERY FAST. The sunlight caught thre reflection of the metasl as it accelerated, that's why I noticed it. I couldn't see it before then, and it was gone in a flash.

Twice a few years ago when I lived in the country in SW Missouri I saw several bright round lights flying in formation. Upon closer inspection you could see they were flying around something that you vouldn;t visibly see but it was so masive it blocked the stars behind it. You could see the outline of it from the stars it blocked. You could see the outline of it from the stars it blocked. It was HUGE.

So yes, I think ETs probably have invisibility technology, and we probably got it from them.

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I believe that the reason most americans don't see more UFOS is because they don't have Maps.

And I believe that alot of people are in bed a sleep when the UFOS fly over their house.

Thank you

I think you bring a fresh and intriguing idea to the forum, and I thank you. This is the kind of "debatative" thought-provocation I really enjoy, as it doesn't engage any of our preconceived notions, nor morality/religious concepts.

What IF? What an incredible concept...... to imagine that the "others" aren't perfect, that their systems are not infallible, that Terrestrial signals and matrices might just influences their systems. I love it. I think your postulate has real merit.

Now this is hardly something testable, so it won't rank in the norms of emperical data, but I think you're onto something here. Big time Kuros, and S&F.

I think this is going to be a favorite thread for a while.

cheers

Originally posted by searchingforthetruth


Twice a few years ago when I lived in the country in SW Missouri I saw several bright round lights flying in formation. Upon closer inspection you could see they were flying around something that you vouldn;t visibly see but it was so masive it blocked the stars behind it. You could see the outline of it from the stars it blocked. You could see the outline of it from the stars it blocked. It was HUGE.

Wow, I'm from SW Mo! Used to live about 10 miles north of Springfield. How long ago was that, if you don't mind me asking?

Reason I ask is back in '85 or '86 I saw a black triangle UFO in the car with my parents on the way back to our house, around 9 or 9:30 p.m.

Originally posted by Heike
What if there are a lot more UFOs up there than we ever see, but they are cloaked (invisible)? Humans already have the early stages of such technology:

Ummm... okay...? What If? As I thought I understood it this is already a given.

Is it just me or wasn't this already a known fact?

What I am going to state here is a belief...and solely a belief, or theory if you will.

The UFOs do not need a cloaking device. We are all energy. Mostly vibrating energy, creating our own limitations.

UFOs, demons...all of these things are always present. They do not go anywhere. We cannot see them, because they choose that we don't.

Let me explain. I, and a few others, believe everything vibrates and resonates at different frequencies. The frequency we are currently on allows us to observe only 4 dimensions. Beings who have evolved in energy can observe more. They can observe us, while we cannot observe them.

Higher energies are able to change their frequencies and can allow themselves to be seen, for what reason, I do not know. When we see aliens, UFOs, demons etc...we see life forms vibrating on our frequency. Some of us have head-starts(for lack of a better word) and are vibrating at slightly higher frequencies than most of us and see and feel these things more frequently than most folk.

The spiritual realm and other realms alike are simply areas of existence/consciousness that vibrate on a different frequency than we do. They are always here...but we cannot be a part of it because we do not resonate with the same frequency.

Thanks, ofhumandescent! Appreciate the positive feedback.

I have recently begun reading up on "sky falls," reports of things falling out of the sky such as fish, frogs, rocks, meat, blood .. and birds. I'm sure most of us have, at one time or another, seen a bird fly into glass, fall to the ground, and die. It's unfortunate and unpleasant, but it happens. Birds don't have sonar or radar - if they can't see it, they can't avoid it.

I'm intrigued to have come across quite a few reports of birds falling out of the sky that are still alive, and according to witness reports exhibit behavior (twitching, flopping about, weakly trying to flap their wings or get up, etc.) which is identical to behavior that I have observed in birds who've just smacked into a window.

So, I have to wonder .. in cases where a few dozen birds fall out of the sky and die, and autopsies fail to reveal any pathogen responsible for their deaths .. could they have run into a cloaked UFO?

Officially these reports are blamed on smoke, pesticides, "a cloud of ammonia in the sky," or sometimes the official word is basically "we don't know what killed them, but it's not a threat to the human population so don't worry about it." Huh?

Suppose they discovered that the birds had died of broken necks and head injuries, and released that information. The probable response from the public would be "well, what did they run into?" We know that the occasional bird may run afoul of a plane, but not a whole flock - after all, they can see it. Releasing such results would create a whole new mystery that officialdom would NOT want to deal with, so instead they tell us "it wasn't West Nile, don't worry about it" or give pesticide and ammonia cloud explanations.

Note also that in many cases, workers are dispatched to pick up the birds with extreme haste, sometimes collecting them while they are still falling. Of course you can say that dead birds are unpleasant and disturbing to have lying about, but still .. how often does officialdom respond with such alacrity to take care of something that is merely unpleasant or "looks bad?"

Of course you see where I am going with this, and I won't run my theory too much further into the ground. In some cases I wonder if birds actually run into a solid object that is cloaked, or if perhaps the energy fields that surround UFOs, perhaps even the cloaking field itself, are harmful to the birds and cause them to die so quickly that they literally fall out of the sky. Although I know perfectly well that sick and injured birds will go to desperate lengths to hide their condition, acting as normal as they possibly can, I also know that flying takes a great deal of energy, and energy is what a sick bird runs out of very quickly. I would logically expect that sick birds would fall out of trees dead after being perched for a while, too sick to fly, than that they would succumb to illness in mid-flight.

More evidence for my theory?