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Obama to ban the sale/transfer of ALL Semi-Automatic weapons.

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 03:36 AM
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HAH LOL


You guys should see my belt fed M1919A1... that's a HOOOT!!!!

It looks just like this one... it's a rocker. When I go to the range every one just walks over and wants to touch it!!!!





-Euclid

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by SHADOW WALKER
reply to post by enlighten2012 That's Exactly Right . YOU Don't Live In America And ARE'NT American So You'll Never Realize Why We Guard OUR Right To Keep And Bear Arms So Feverishly ! If You Had The Same Gun Rights As We AMERICANS Do In The First Place Then You Would Understand This !
 




i guess your right. i was not born with a gun in my hand so maybe i dont know why its not such a bad thing to disarm. or maybe its just that the fear factor you have also been born with blinds you from what seems perfectly clear to the rest of the world. i'm also guessing that the daily murders which occur in the states are mostly by knives, hatchets???

well good luck with whomever wins your election guys because they have a tough crowd



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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You can afford to feed that thing?

They sell them here but its not for me. The older you get the smaller your small arms get over time....



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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A fair amount of the murders committed in the United States each year are not committed by criminals with firearms. The majority are, but in any given year, 30-40% are not.

But it seems to me that you're the one with a 'fear factor'. You're afraid of an inanimate object in the hands of law abiding citizens. The overwhelming majority of the 220 million firearms in the hands of private US citizens will never be used in the commission of a crime.



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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 09:00 AM
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Has anyone bothered to explain to the anti-gun crowd that the pro-gun crowd has guns?



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by on_yur_6
From my cold dead hand OBAMA! Our two choices really suck but this guy is so far out in left field that I cannot believe he has a shot at being our president. At least the Supreme Court ruled in favor of gun ownership. Now these idiots want to dictate what type of weapon you can have.


yes lets all be allowed to have portable tactical nukes and tanks. For real who is going to attack your neighborhood if you have a tac nuke.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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Sound logic once again from the anti gun crowd. When you cant hold your own in an arguement, take everything to the extreme. Oh, wait, I said that? I must be a racist and a bigot as well. I believe that is the next mantra to "winning" according to anti-gunners.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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Where does the federal government get the power to own nukes? We the people cannot delegate a power we do not already have.

Lets get real here: Facts destroy any argument for gun control.

Supporters of gun control are nothing more than weak minds who tend to think with emotion rather than logic.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 12:41 PM
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Well we are 10 pages in.

So Far:
1. Not one single person has been able to provide evidence that the topic is not true and factual.

2. By Obama's own admission, he stated up to now his gun policies have not changed one bit. and he is distancing himself from the topic during the election.

3. His voting record has not and can not be challenged in any way. It is recorded historical fact.

This is all fact people. This clown will be sucking down martinis and smoking cuban cigars while the storm troopers are kicking in your doors.

Get the word out. Tell someone. Tell everyone.

All of your semi automatic pistols, rifles and shotguns are at stake. And thats just the beginning......



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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Americas addiction to guns and firearms is clearly a case of 'substance abuse'



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by enlighten2012

i guess your right. i was not born with a gun in my hand so maybe i dont know why its not such a bad thing to disarm. or maybe its just that the fear factor you have also been born with blinds you from what seems perfectly clear to the rest of the world. i'm also guessing that the daily murders which occur in the states are mostly by knives, hatchets???

well good luck with whomever wins your election guys because they have a tough crowd



What does it matter WHAT is used to commit a murder? The point is murders still happen. I am guessing that you are from the UK or Australia? How are those gun bans working out for England? Not very good, now everyone is just killed with knives and swords, and now it is a crime just to be carrying a steak knife home from the store. And on top of that, more and more people are being killed by guns in robberies, because the robbers know that 99.9% of the time, their victim has no way to fight back.

I read about packs of youths stabbing people to death over there. It sure as hell sounds a lot more barbaric and animal like than the United States.

And its not just average joes getting in gunfights and murders all the time. A good portion of our crime is due to one thing, drugs, and the attempted control of them. The "war on drugs" does far more harm to this country than the drugs themselves ever could.

Anyway, for those of you complaining about the US culture, no one asked you to comment on it, I personally could not care less. Just because you enjoy living in a society where the government says jump and you say how high doesn't mean I have any desire to.

I know that another argument is that people say "whats the point, you can't defeat the government, they have way better weapons". Tell that to the Afghans in the 80's and today, also tell that to all the insurgents in Iraq, tell that to the Somali's tell that to the north vietnamese. The point is, big war machines tend to grind to a hault when met with a resistance force, especially when it is a non tradition "gorilla" fighting force. Oh yeah, and also tell it to the members of the Revolutionary War who refused to stand in a line to fight, and sent the stupid red coats back to where they came from.

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[edit on 8-8-2008 by TheStarMan]



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 03:41 PM
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Wether or not we should have guns is kind of beside the point. The 2nd amendment says we can so therefore... we can. My question is does Obama actually support stripping us of that right? I need to dig into this more because if he does then I will be changing my vote to Libertarian.

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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Yes he does support the subversion of the second amendment.

Read the link on page one and then at the bottom you can see how everyone shapes up.

Not much to choose from regardless of the issues.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 07:41 PM
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Yeah, like an all out national ban on all semi-automatic weapons would ever make it through the government in one piece without being labeled unconstitutional.

What do you think, that when someone becomes President that all their hopes and dreams suddenly materialize and we're stuck with them? There are checks and balances in the government for a reason. The President may have power to help slide something in, but that doesn't mean he has power over whether or not it is ripped to shreds, or have you not taken a high school government class?

Something like that wouldn't even make it to his desk for him to sign.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:00 PM
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I take it you don't understand the power a President now has. He can enact by decree based on anti terror assessment.

Perhaps you should get out of high school before handing out the put downs?

Folks better get up to speed on the power the president now has. He does not need anything from the house or senate to enact his wishes.

It seems we heard all this same garbage when they said oh there will never be an assault weapons ban. You just wait and see what they tack on the end of it this time.....

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posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:43 PM
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They said that about the assault weapons ban, too. We saw how that worked out in the 90s. And speaking of the AWB, the Dems have been trying yet again.

HR 1022

I see that they've now included the Mini-14, a rifle in production for 35 years and widely used as a hunting rifle across the US. I'm sure it won't be the last one on their list.

There are 66 co-sponsors...all Democrats. They've had a similar bill going in the Senate in the past. At this point, they've been unsuccessful at getting it to a floor vote, but if the balance of power shifts a little more in their favor this fall, they may have enough votes to push it through. Could the Supreme Court find it unconstitutional? Certainly. On the other hand, they could uphold it, especially if/when a few justices retire and new ones are added. And even if they do overturn it, considering that the DC gun ban stood for 30 years before it was declared unconstitutional, I wouldn't count on the USSC to save the 2nd Amendment anytime soon.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Probably better be watching this one too.

www.govtrack.us...



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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i guess your right. i was not born with a gun in my hand so maybe i don't know why its not such a bad thing to disarm. or maybe its just that the fear factor you have also been born with blinds you from what seems perfectly clear to the rest of the world. i'm also guessing that the daily murders which occur in the states are mostly by knives, hatchets???

well good luck with whomever wins your election guys because they have a tough crowd



You were not born with a gun in your hand because you were born a slave, A ward of the state, not even granted the right to defend yourself by your socialist masters.
Governments don't grant human rights we are all born with them. I guess after two world wars being fought in Europe your people were weary from all the destruction and death and became willing accomplices to your own slavery.
Its sad and pathetic that once proud and strong people have been reduced to being hand fed like baby lambs.



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 09:24 PM
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Yes, being subjects of the crown never did sit well with me. I sure am glad I am an American and not completely under the thumb of a house of lords thats usualy asleep or drunk. Although it does kinda sound like our Senate. Theres suposedly some guy that goes to the Senate and has for many years and has Video of certain Senators that can hardly talk let alone be trusted to vote coherently. I hope its released soon. Probably mostly of Kennedy!


Zindo



posted on Aug, 8 2008 @ 11:30 PM
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Not one person can defend Obama and the path he will take us down. Not even one person. Its because its 100% true he will work and has worked to undermine and destroy the second amendment.

Human waste and a traitor to America. The next thing we need to do is an investigation as to his ties to the attempted overthrow of a democratic republic in Africa under the direction of his cousin, whom he also campaigned for. I think it was an attempt to install an Islamic govt. but I'm not saying anything at this time other than an investigation is due. If he did take part he is in fact an Islamic insurgent on us soil attempting to subvert the govt.

There again that is ALL here say until someone investigates and provides facts.

We have his hide nailed to the smokehouse wall with his gun control votes and policy right now.





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