[HOAX]GFL spaceship DID NOT APPEAR on Oct.14th, 2008[HOAX], page 314
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reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 08:27 PM by ImNOW
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dude, but the message served is purpose. think about it for a minute, would you not start like this?



reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 09:29 PM by SecretUsername
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Did I say I saw them, I live in California so no.. not even close. Who is to say SHE was even in tune enough to seem them. She is after all only human your closed mindedness to anything you can't understand is really sad.

Listen to myself? Hmm sounds like you should listen. I offered hard facts about the POSSIBILITY it was there. And asked anyone to provide me with evidence to disprove it. And all you can do is attack my "in tune" part.. one sentence to pre-tense the main body of my post. What I ment by that was explained in the 2 paragraphs afterward. To make it easier for you to understand... My point is just because you can't see something does not mean it does not exist.

But your too closed minded to think about that and instead label me as a crazy. Do you even know if I believe what she says or if I believe in this GFL? No you don't, but you have no problem assuming I am on the train and label me crazy. I'm sure everything you think of is the truth (even without ANY facts or investigation) and nothing can sway you from it.. that is truly sad my friend.



reply posted on 1-5-2009 @ 09:52 PM by SecretUsername
Sigh.. you obviously didn't get my post, but got what you wanted out of it.

FACT: YOU can only see 380 to 750 nm wavelengths, but others exist.
FACT: YOU can only see up to the 3d dimension, but others do exist. (might be wrong on this but whatever its not the point)

Tie in with a little common sense even a "rookie" can do and you get a theory. Say, the ship, if there was one.. emitted light at 900 NM wavelengths... we would NOT see it. If it was in another dimension above what we comprehend, we would NOT see it. But here I am just repeating myself in much simpler terms.. all this was in the 1st post you claim to "got".

I don't claim there was a ship there, and don't claim there was not. The fact is no one can claim there was NOT a ship there unless you had the tools to come to that conclusion. That this was labeled as a "hoax" without any scientific proof.

I don't know if I can explain it any simpler..

Edit: Just to add to your edit. I don't know why they would. It would not seem logical. But I'm sure a lot of things we do don't seem logical to other species either. Maybe they wanted to see how many would look for them? Who knows... None of these are stupid points, but "arguing" over it is stupid. Along with labeling it a hoax with out disproving it. I'm just offering up a possibility after all. It was a year ago, I really don't care if they were there or not.

To me people need to be reminded that they don't understand everything in this universe. This is like people calling the world flat, they really believed it.. and someone comes and say no it is a sphere.. let me prove it and immediately people say "OMG HOAX" without all the evidence.

[edit on 1-5-2009 by SecretUsername]


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 01:52 AM by SecretUsername
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Why? Do you believe the light spectrum is fake? Your entitled to your opinion of course.. right or wrong. Who knows you could be right, though I doubt with so much space there be any traffic jams. But if dismissing a theory outright, without following any scientific process, is more believable to you then your entitled to that. Either of you have shown proof I am wrong and unfortunately I cannot prove/disprove myself either (unless I can borrow your time machine) but I would at least TRY before making my mind up. Just because I can't prove my theory does not mean the possibility is any less real.

Keep in mind what we see is like getting just a few channels of radio on the AM (500-1500 kHz) band. If you only could tune into a small fraction of all the channels would you know what there talking about on the others? Would you even know the other channel exist? So how can anyone assume something is NOT in a light spectrum that we CANNOT even see? It's just like the people who knew the world is flat.. no proof, easy to believe at the time. It takes courage to challenge what you don't know. And people did.. and found out they were wrong!

I don't even think the GFL is or were here.. but nothing has convinced me they were not either. Of course you guys probably think I'm one of their followers or whatever. Guess it's much easier to dismiss real theory's with real science to back them up if your not open to any other possibility.. or if you already labeled the presenter a certain way. That is just being closed mined and lazy. It is really entertaining how so many of you outright dismiss the possibility of anything outside your conventional thinking. Without even using the proper scientific processes used for decades to back up your claims. Especially on a web sight such as this! The same kinda people who said "The world is flat" back then are the same kind saying "Aliens can't be invisible to the naked eye". It is just easier for lazy people to jump to conclusions I guess.

If some current theory's of parallel universes are correct, then in some universe there HAD to be a ship there. Its so sad how humans think there so bright and all knowing... yet they are just newborns in this universe. Open up your mind to all possibility's, investigate them before dismissing what could be the truth.


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 02:02 AM by schrodingers dog
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You know, I agree with so much with what you say, insofar as never discounting possibilities and being humble enough to concede that there so much that we don't know.

Having said that, as far as the GFL is concerned, whilst being open to the wonders of the universe, we still have to use the little we know to evaluate reality. Even with the very limited tools at our disposal.

Otherwise, we can all shout in the night and it is all potentially true.

Miss BG said that they were coming and they would be seen, they apparently said to her that they were coming and would be seen, and apparently also told her post fact that they changed their mind about coming and be seen.

So, what are we to make of that with our primordial senses?

Should we use the very reason you point to as limited to extrapolate some contrived way that they were here after all?

It was a hoax, perhaps intentional, perhaps she really believed what she was saying ...

Edit for stupid spelling.

[edit on 2 May 2009 by schrodingers dog]


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 02:28 AM by SecretUsername
reply to post by schrodingers dog



Ahh very good points and I can see now why this was labeled such. To be perfectly honest I never followed the story completely. I am pretty new to the internet actually so this is all new. I've heard bits and pieces about this from friends but have not read the 300+ pages in this thread.

I never knew about her post statement where she claims they changed their minds. When I came in here it seemed like the reason this was tagged a hoax was based on the object not being visible, so it couldn't possibly be there. So I was coming up with a counter to that theory. But if she said they changed their minds or never came then my points are irrelevant. I was only trying to offer a solution as to why they would not be seen, if they do even exist.

Thank you for your kind reply, now I know the real reason why this was tagged star for you!


reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 02:40 AM by schrodingers dog
reply to post by SecretUsername



It's all good.

If you're up for some reading you can catch all her post Oct. 14th "channelings" with the GFL at her website.

You know, I still don't know if she's a scam artist or she really hears voices.

I actually wish her well, she seems like a nice lady.



reply posted on 2-5-2009 @ 07:21 AM by ImNOW
reply to post by Redpillblues



When you look upon those you love, do you not want the very most and best for them that is possible?

Even if you think you know what that is, do you not intuitively understand that they must come to know what that is for themselves? That you cannot give it to them, and even if you could and did, they would not value it because they would have no idea how to do so? They would not truly know it as their own, because it was handed to them from outside of themselves...

Do you not realize that you cannot dictate what they should believe, what they should do, how they should feel, etc.?

Those whose view of Creation is far more expanded than we tend to have here at the human level are loathe to take away from us our choices.

Free Will is the Divine Gift we were given in order to explore WHATEVER WE CHOOSE TO EXPLORE. This includes many things - ideas, beliefs, experiences, etc. - that you or someone else may not like or think are "wrong" or "bad".

But for those whose view is more expanded, there is no judgment. All choices are Divine. All choices are worthy and honored. And there is also no forcing.

At this time on earth truth will out because it is time for this. But there are those who will not choose to see truth for what it is, though it be right in front of them, and they have that right.

Those who cannot see truth by soul choice not to, will not see many things most others will. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS.

When it is their time, they will see. And know. And feel. And perhaps even perform miracles themselves. But only when it is time for them. Only when they choose.

For it to be otherwise would take away the greatest gift that made this entire paradigm possible. It would negate our humanity, dismiss it out of hand.

I don't know about you, but I can feel the deep, abiding and unconditional love felt for all of humanity, precisely and specifically because of humanity's amazing ability to forget who they Truly Are and experience life from so many perspectives that deny truth. Do you understand this idea? What an amazing feat!

Many are done with doing this "anti-self, anti-life, anti-truth" thing, but some are not. Those who are seeking a way through to the truth of their being will open to it in their own way, and it will be perfect. Those who are not seeking this awakening will experience their path differently, and it will be perfect.

Some may choose to leave this earth before things get much further along, because it is "too much" for their humanness to overcome while down here on the ground. To face these changes is inevitable, yes. But some will choose to do so from their more expanded state of being, that which they re-enter upon leaving this physical, human plane. This too is perfect.


reply posted on 11-6-2009 @ 04:45 AM by Artisan Glow
reply to post by SecretUsername



With the technology the ETs have to arrive here via hyperspace or via a stargate then I'm sure they are aware we are in the third dimension so they would make sure their ship was visible to us....

As I understand it there are twelve dimensions or frequencies and we are only in the third....we have a long way to go.
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