reply to post by TheRepublic
sure politicians have tried to use religion to their advantage before in the past, but never did a politician try and create a religion around
themselves, at least in america. there are some examples from history, none of which are particularly attractive... think roman emperors, think
Here you make two claims that are central to your post. The first that Obama has attempted (and by your own statement to some degree of success) to
create a religion
'around himself'. The second is that the historical comparisons for this action are best seen in roman emperors and in
I would like to address your second point first. Your comparison of Obama to Roman Emperors and Hitler comes from where? Only through this idea that
Obama is attempting to create a Religion of himself? Quite honestly it reads as little more than a basic and rather weak attempt at a smear.
You then say:
The point of this all is that there is a brand new religion in america this election season, one that i find particularly
disturbing. The Cult of Obama.
Now right off the bat I am both confused and amused. First off I would really be interested in hearing HOW people's support of Obama is equatable to
religion and what exactly the 'new religion' is?
Religion tends to be defined by a set of beliefs that explain the purpose and creation of the universe and humans place within it. It is a
practice that helps to inform ones world view.
While I do see people being highly turned on by the prospect of Obama as our next president I somehow missed the creation of a religion surrounding
him as the leader.
but the thing that disturbs me is the religious undertones to the obama campaign. the religious fanaticism of some of his followers. the utter
disregard for logic and reason.
Tell me, is the slogans 'hope' and 'change' the religious undertones you are talking about? Or are there more? What are they exactly because I do
not see them?
Then you go on to say
the Obama campaign is delibrately creating this messianic atmosphere on purpose, and people are buying it! i find this
not only immoral and corrupt but almost unconstitutional!
Up to this point I can kind of follow your argument though it is lacking depth but here I must say you go off the deep end. Ok so you say Obama is
deliberately creating the 'messianic atmosphere on purpose' please explain HOW. by promising 'hope' and 'change'? To me I see that is being in
regards to the US political system and being directly related to the failed political actions of the Bush administration over the last eight years.
Never once did it occur to me that he was talking about 'hope' and 'change' on a spiritual / religious level. I listen to politicians to hear what
they have to say about politics and religious leaders to hear what they have to say on religion, I can not think of any point in time that I deviated
from this standard.
So you make the claim Obama is acting immorally and in a corrupt and possibly unconstitutional fasion but you offer little or no evidence for your
point other than the fact he uses the terms 'hope and change'. To make such serious claims I would simply assume you would have the material to back
it up and i strongly urge you to produce it here to prove your point.
To be honest your argument goes down hill from here. The bit from Spike Lee coveys what i have always known, Spike Lee is an animated actor and writer
prone to exaggerating reality for the sake of making his points.
The flyer from Kentucky says to me Obama is talking to a state that is known for it's strong faith.
Neither to me say Obama is trying to be GOD!
Obama has the type of support he has today, IMHO, because of how poorly Bush and the Republican controlled Congress And Senate performed for our
nation over 5.5 years. Whats more i do believe that Bush stole the second election by tampering with electronic election machines as well as through
voter caging and other less than savory tactics. It is also MHO that Gore won the first election and that it was the supreme courts decision to end
counting the votes that gave him the office.
My point is this: Bush and Friends created the fevered atmosphere you see in the political world today. The zeal you see directed towards Obama was
created largely by Bush, not Obama. People are just so sick and tired of waking up everyday to see what idiotic and down right destructive and
dangerous action Bush took the day before. After so many years of such painful and weak leadership people are ecstatic to get just about anything else
that is DIFFERENT thus offering the prospect of CHANG?E and HOPE.
It has nothing to do with religion or cult worship, it all has to do with mounting disappointment in Bush's performance.
Think I am wrong and you are right? Then prove it. simply stating your opinion proves nothing and the examples you gave for this 'new religion' are
really no evidence at all. My suggestion is GET DIRTY mate. You really need to dig up relevant and credible proof that Obama is truly attempting to
create a 'new religion' and 'messianic image' of himself. What you have offered here has little merit IMHO.