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When Obama is elected, it will change everything. ... You'll have to measure time
by `Before Obama' and `After Obama,'" Lee said during the panel. "It's an
exciting time to be alive now." ...
"Everything's going to be affected by this seismic change in the universe," he
said.
Originally posted by Mcloud313
I agree, and while I am one to wish Obama into office rather than Mccain, I still have a strong distrust and ignorance of where he stands on most issues. I haven't seen much of his previous experience so I can't make judgments on him either way, however one strong judgment I have against him is he seems to change his mind on the issues hes been running on already which has me kind of worried.
I as well however don't understand these people that are so devoted and yet know nothing of him.
It seems like leaping from a building and just hoping there is a safety net down there but not really knowing that it exists down there.
You also can't seem to reason with these people just like radical Christians. Kind of frightening if you ask me.
Originally posted by Quazga
Originally posted by Mcloud313
I agree, and while I am one to wish Obama into office rather than Mccain, I still have a strong distrust and ignorance of where he stands on most issues. I haven't seen much of his previous experience so I can't make judgments on him either way, however one strong judgment I have against him is he seems to change his mind on the issues hes been running on already which has me kind of worried.
Really? The ability to change one's mind has you worried?
This sounds like baiting but I'll bite.
Obama hasn't changed his mind. If you undersand American politics you will note many things. One it's built on compromise between two parties.
You start off on the extremes in Primary season. Then after primary season, you saunter over the the middle, hopefully via compromise to that the ground you give up is covered by the ground you gain.
In the most recent accusation of Obama changing his mind, the off shore drilling. He said "Sure I'll support a bill on offshore drilling as long as it also has provisions for solar, wind and biofules."
That's not "changing one's mind"
I as well however don't understand these people that are so devoted and yet know nothing of him.
Most of us who support him know plenty of him. What I find funny is that you don't know me or the rest of the Obama supporters, yet you claim that we don't know anything about Obama.
That is just paradoxical projection if you ask me.
It seems like leaping from a building and just hoping there is a safety net down there but not really knowing that it exists down there.
Really? That's how it appears? I thought you said at the beginning of your post you wanted Obama to win. What are your reasons? Or are you just attempting to bait us here by acting like a supporter who is disallusioned with him?
How did the GB supporters look to you?
The Clinton Supporters?
The Reagan Supporters?
The Carter Supporters?
You also can't seem to reason with these people just like radical Christians. Kind of frightening if you ask me.
And with that, you attempt to shut the door on any actual discussion, dismissing anyone who has a rational thought as like a "radical christian".
Here are some of the reasons I am voting Obama
1. Obama is the best PR man America has had in decades.
2. Obama has the ability to reason, change his mind, and find common ground with others.
3. Obama inspires people to better themselves and their world.
[edit on 4-8-2008 by Quazga]
[edit on 4-8-2008 by Quazga]
I as well however don't understand these people that are so devoted and yet know nothing of him. It seems like leaping from a building and just hoping there is a safety net down there but not really knowing that it exists down there. You also can't seem to reason with these people just like radical Christians. Kind of frightening if you ask me.
1. Obama is the best PR man America has had in decades.
2. Obama has the ability to reason, change his mind, and find common ground with others.
3. Obama inspires people to better themselves and their world.
Originally posted by Mcloud313
I probably should have been a little more specific about the types of voters I was speaking about, you are different than the ones I was talking about, as you actually have reasons to vote for him.
I don't think we know enough about his political experiences and his absolute stands on the issues.
Once you get beyond those paper-thin qualifications for office, Obama is nothing but a mass of flaws, bad character traits, and left-wing agitprop. While the press lauds Obama as if he just cured cancer and invented a car that runs on lawn clippings in the same day, everyone else can't help but notice...
If little girls are made up of sugar, spice, and everything nice, then Obama is made up of arugula, personal presidential seals, and hubris. Never before has a candidate with so few accomplishments to his name looked so far down his nose at the American people.
Rather famously, Obama refused to hold his hand over his heart for the national anthem and publicly made a point of not wearing a flag pin -- and then had the "audacity" to complain when people quite naturally questioned his patriotism. Since then, Obama replaced the American flag on his plane with his own symbol and made a point of running down his country and calling himself a "citizen of the world" while he was overseas. Is having a President who loves his own country too much to ask? In Obama's case, apparently so.
Originally posted by sos37
Has anyone ever stopped to think about what happens to all of this Obama literature and memorabilia if he loses? Does it become collector's items or will it go into the trash?
Originally posted by TheRepublic
so your saying this is all a fraud put on by the GOP?
my issue is with people who are unconcerned with the issues. the blind followers that scream the words "hope" and "believe" without knowing or caring what is supposed to be so profound about his stances on things.
i have no respect for the mindless parroting and cultlike behavior of some of his followers.
but this country should not be run on feelings and "hope"
i dont see how you can say with a straight face that there are no messianic undertones to the obama campaign.