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posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Slothrop
reply to post by Blaine91555
 


this is something i can't get into too much.

we believe in getting our way.


So your activities are such that you have to hide what you do? Are you hiding these things due to them being illegal or because they are contrary to how you describe yourselves and would reveal something immoral, dangerous or embarrassing about yourselves.

What does Satanism bring to the table to the benefit of mankind? Or, is it an organization for and by sociopathic or megalomaniacal personalities. Is it an extension of hatred felt by its practitioners? Are your members bitter at society in general?




posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 09:40 PM
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Such is often believed about Satanists. There's lots of different ways people take their religions. There's generalization to each belief, but not everyone of a religion believes exactly the same.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 09:41 PM
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You are in fact on a thread called "ask a satanist" and you attacked someone for asking a question of a "satanist". Your self-esteem must be at rock bottom.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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im rather suprised on the OP's moral, and outright forwardness, which i think is both great qualities. seems alsoto agree with the terra papers lol

much respect for the OP on being honest on a matter that some would just turn there heads and look away and not even read due to one word.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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Could you perhaps point out a few instances of Jehovah's insanity ? I ask this question as a point of interest , not as a sarcastic remark in an attempt to put you one the spot .


sure, i'd be happy to.

let's begin at the beginning. jehova creates the heaven and the earth and the beasts and the fruits and the gardens and finally man and then woman (maybe twice, lilith and eve both, if you believe the kabalists, which i do) and god and adam and eve all live in the garden of eden. now we don't necessarily believe the Fall is a true story, but we believe something pretty close happened. so what does god do? he creates a tree with forbidden fruit, and this fruit is the lushest, most perfect fruit in the garden. it's right there, in adam and eve's noses, and then he says don't eat this or you will be punished. so the serpent comes along and convinces eve to eat the fruit (the greatest gift anyone ever gave mankind) and she does and this all loving merciful creator kicks them out, no questions asked and death comes into the world.

later, god finds a man who has always been righteous and upright in his eyes. the man loves and worships god. so to reward him, god says "hey, kill your son. if you love me, kill your son. sacrifice him unto me, dude".

there is an angel whose job it is to be man's accuser and adversary. he's a professional villain. so he comes to god and says "hey, you know that guy job?" and god says "yeah, solid guy. always upright in my eyes. loves me to death and i love him above all other mortals". the angel chuckles and says "bet i can get him to curse you". god says "no way" and the angel says "give me complete power over him. l et me torture him however i want and you can't intervene or even tell him what's going on. i'll put him through hell and he'll curse you". god says "rock and roll. let's do this".

look how he treated saul. look how he treated david. look at what he put the prophets through. look at poor moses. all that time in the desert putting up with the children of israel and he can't even set foot in the promised land because of one transgression.

religious types try to spin these things as examples of god's greatness love and mysterious ways. i know there is a theological rationalization for every one of them. but how would you feel if a person did stuff like this? what if a mother acted this way toward her daughter or if a guy acted like this toward his wife and kids? we'd lock them up for their own safety and the safety of those around them.

jehova created a world and then he tried to make up rules nobody could follow, contradictory and confusing rules designed to baffle and enslave. then he expects to be worshipped as the great benefactor?

as to your other question, we actually have a pretty detailed notion of who and what the individual demons are, although we don't claim to be 100% sure of everything. most of us think satan and lucifer are different entities and, if we were sticklers, we'd be more luciferians than satanists. but satanist has a nice ring to it and it's what has been handed down through the years.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:01 PM
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this might seem silly, but do you go to "satanic" church services?

could you tell a bit about what these are like?

thanks



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by Slothrop
reply to post by Blaine91555
 


this is something i can't get into too much.

we believe in getting our way.


So your activities are such that you have to hide what you do? Are you hiding these things due to them being illegal or because they are contrary to how you describe yourselves and would reveal something immoral, dangerous or embarrassing about yourselves.

What does Satanism bring to the table to the benefit of mankind? Or, is it an organization for and by sociopathic or megalomaniacal personalities. Is it an extension of hatred felt by its practitioners? Are your members bitter at society in general?


we have definitely done things that would be considered "immoral". as i said what we value is helping friends and harming enemies. this is the basis of our ethics. i'm not embarrassed by anything i've done but there are definitely things you don't want to blab about on the internet.

what satanism brings to the table is liberating people from the slave ethic of judaeo-christianity. it teaches people to be happy and to look out for and advance their own self interest.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:05 PM
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What do you think about this ex-satanists story who believes he was saved by GOD after demons started attacking him and tried to get him to committ suicide?


VIDEO LINK,
www.youtube.com...



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:05 PM
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yes we do have worship services. i am multitasking right now but later i can go into just a little detail about this.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by thirdeyeflight
Tell me the basics of your religion. I am curious because I have only heard my side, never yours. Thank you in advance.


The basics are this:

A: Do whatever you want to.
B: Never be born again.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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What's that supposed to mean? Are you calling Satanists wrong or something? Just wonderin'.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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so basically, you as a satanist are as full of # as the rest of them. when you are ready to quit playing around with your little naive childish ideas of demons and ghosts and join us in the 21st century we'll be waiting. until then i really don't care what you or anyone else has to say about your religion. one religion slamming the other slamming the other. it's a story as old as time...



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Slothrop
it teaches people to be happy and to look out for and advance their own self interest.


Thank you as that was the answer I was fishing for.

Please don't misunderstand my use of the term sociopath(ic). In this case your answer confirmed my belief about who Satanism would attract.

Anyone that does not accept your beliefs would be considered an enemy? Am I still on the right track? You feel no obligation to society other than where it benefits you and only if it benefits you? When you do something you have to hide, you feel no regret as you are right and society is wrong?



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:32 PM
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Another question if I'm not out of line. What sort of spiritual environment were you raised in or around? Was it a bad experience for you somehow?

[edit on 8/3/2008 by Blaine91555]



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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To the OP:
Hey, welcome to the board. I have a question for you that I'd love for you to answer. Now, I know the response I may get is fairly obvious, but I just want to actually get it in person. (Or as personal as it can get over teh internets)

So, how do you feel about Christianity, you know, it being pretty much the opposite of what you believe. I know you probably have alot of reasons to strongly oppose such religion, but I want to hear it. I myself am a Christian (and no, I am not going to make an attempt to convert you [at this time
]) and am curious as to what and why you do what you do. Thanks.
Peace.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:41 PM
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slothrop: does satanism condone/embrace/encourage and/or force sexual hedonism and/or drug use?
I am just wondering because one always hears stories of satanists having giant hedonistic sexual orgies during their rituals in order to set themselves free of the 'chaste' bonds that judeo-christians have brainwashed them with, and the same thing with drugs I suppose.
So do you guys advocate the use of recreational drugs and hedonism for the pure sake of fleshly lust and bodily enjoyment etc and do you guys do this during rituals or services?



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:50 PM
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reply to post by Fulcrum29
 

Nah, dude! That's crazy! I know you didn't ask me, but I for one, know that's wrong.




posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 10:55 PM
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The fact is that the Holy Bible was the first place the devil,satan,the great rebel,ect.... was ever mentioned - of course after the scrolls and if it wasn't for the bible,you would never of even heard of saten.lol - or probablly even black sabbath



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Fulcrum29
slothrop: does satanism condone/embrace/encourage and/or force sexual hedonism and/or drug use?


oh god yes!


I am just wondering because one always hears stories of satanists having giant hedonistic sexual orgies during their rituals in order to set themselves free of the 'chaste' bonds that judeo-christians have brainwashed them with, and the same thing with drugs I suppose.


sadly, no. this rarely if ever happens. the sect doesn't provide drugs and orgies as a matter of course. it's certainly not part of the average ceremony.


So do you guys advocate the use of recreational drugs and hedonism for the pure sake of fleshly lust and bodily enjoyment etc and do you guys do this during rituals or services?


we advocate having fun. sex and drugs are definitely some people's ideas of fun. there's no deep spiritual significance behind them.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 11:05 PM
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I think you might find it interesting to do some research into ancient Sumerian mythology .





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