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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 07:11 PM by iiinvision
reply to post by Electricneo



How well do you know any of the people that you just mentioned?
From what you have written it appears that you have done, at most, a five page essay back in school, that is, if you aren't out already.

don't let the rhetoric use your emotions to persuade you to choose a candidate, and dont let it prevent you from seeing the evidence that both of these candidates are really no better than the other..

Persuade people to start giving a # again and seeing through the mist. Thinking consciously about things and using critical thinking. When enough people get together and are united instead of divided, thats when we will see a change. The few need the many, not the other way around. Don't let their illusion fool you.

The beauty is, is that it doesn't take communism/socialism or a membership to be united. We can all unite our mindsets on certain subjects of the utmost importance: the safeguarding and restoration of our rights and freedoms and unbiased education to the masses to see whats going on today.

This is the age of information



reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 08:57 PM by Ahabstar
Originally posted by Electricneo
MLK- Martin Luther King- who gets a holiday for his visionary conduct-
was against the Vietnam war-was against all wars and violence for that matter.
Violence and war is all that McCain's knows.
It's so obvious that McCain (and Bush for that matter) would get Hitler's vote.
McCain would get Charles Manson's vote.
Obama would get Bobby Kennedy's vote.
McCain would get Satan's vote.
Obama would get Jesus's and Ghandhi's vote.
McCain would get Ted Stevens (the indicted felon Senator from Alaska's) vote.
Obama would get Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore's vote.

McCain is a pimp for the oil companies.
Obama wants to tax the oil companies record profits and give you $1000.

McCain is the reincarnation of the foolhardy General Custer.
Obama is the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln.



Wow, okay let's study that list a bit and teach you what they don't tell you in school.

MLK is not the choice for all the hoopla if you ask the civil rights activists at the time. Malcom X was and for many still is the voice of inspiration of many to get off their duffs and fight for what they believed in. Of course had Malcolm X had a larger following the race riots would have torn the country apart.

Hitler would not have voted for a war monger that he may have had to fight. Everyone knows of Hilters bad points but how about a few good ones: He brought Germany out of a serious ecconomc depression where it literally took a wheelbarrow of cash to go to the store. He modernized warfare logistics and battlefield tactics and took a hard stance against those that had the ability but no desire to work--an idea that many share today. He was also a fanatical anti-smoker and forbade it in his presence, for what that is worth to you).

Charles Manson has no ability to cast a ballot due to his incarceration. And last I checked he never endorsed any canidate nor was overly politically active.

Not sure if Obama would be Bobby or JFK's first choice but they would most likely follow party lines...unless of course they switched parties later in their hypothetical lives. The majority of the Kennedy fortune came from bootlegging liquor during prohibition, today we would call that drug running but that was neither John nor Bobby's doing.

Satan being a construct of Christianity, Judism and Islam doesn't even exist in Taoism, Hinduism or a variety of other religions. Whle Hell, Michigan is a real place I doubt that they have the Dark One on their roles as a registered voter.

Jesus also kicked over the money changers tables in front of the temple and esclaimed give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's. A bit of a rabble rouser that encourged divestment from the ruling authority at the time...he was also said to be around a prostitute quite a bit as well. Ghandhi did similar things in his lifetime protesting British rule and spending each night sleeping with virgins to contantly test his resolve against temptation. Ghandhi was also by birth a member of the second highest caste in the India's caste system so while he made many good points about treating everyone better, the highest caste was free to ignore him as he was beneath them.

Ted Stevens also was a proponent of orgaising Alaska into the 49th State despite being purchased so many years beforehand. he is for stem cell research and is pro- choice. He is also one of the few that can call Mc Cain a kid...but being a longstanding Republican would most likely vote part lines.

Al Gore did indeed win a Nobel Peace Prize, his wife Tipper also founded the PMRC to attempt to censor musicians. The par that really upsets other NPP winners is that Gore did none of the research on Global Warming, does little to reduce, reuse and recycle and the theory of Manmade Global Warming has less evidence than UFO's. But if you can't win an election and suck up to enough europeans I suppose anything is possible.

McCain the oil pimp? You do know that a real pimp takes advantage of confused and vulnerable women and teenage girls, puts them to work in an illegal activity and will beat or kill them if they do not make enough money for him. Seems to me that Obama is the one extorting money from Exxon, but hey free $1000...nevermind the fact that it will be recovered at the pump as cost of business expense....and people are having a hard time at $4/gallon, I can't wait.

Custer was actually an acomplished officer, the rank of general is not just handed out for hanging around. His zeal and dependance on the rest of the forces to join up was a tactical blunder. When the rest of the forces joined the defeated group the numbers would have been enough to win, however it would have been a large scale slaughter for the indians.

Lincoln wanted the formal slaves returned to Africa because he felt they would never belong nor intergrat into society. He also suspended the Constitution, added a state illeagally and conducted drumhead trials and executions to whomever was accused of being enemies of the union. He only freed slaves in confederate states. Lincoln makes even the worst percieved stuff about W look like a pussycat in comparison.


Hope this lesson in history helps but speaking of history in 1972 Hilary Rodam (Clinton) worked on the prosecution to have Nixon impeached, McCain was a POW in the Hanoi Hilton, Obama was in Hawaii attending a private prep school and living with his maternal grandparents. His grandmother was the president of the Bank of Hawaii at the time. This might also be the time that he said he was living on food stamps. So that bit was either a lie or his family regularly commited acts of fraud against the taxpayers.


reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 09:35 PM by Electricneo
reply to post by Ahabstar



Your reply Ahabstar is a prime example of a misinformation as history.

"It's not what you don't know that's ignorance,
it's what you think you know but just ain't so."

Malcolm X was a muslim and promoted violence.
Martin Luther King was a Christian who promoted non-violence.
Who do you think attracted the bigger crowd?
The answer is Martin Luther King. Check out the "I have a dream" speech video.
Malcolm X never attracted as big a crowd. You've been refuted with the facts my man.

You're an apologist for Hitler because he didn't smoke?
Holy crap! Satan has an opening for a PR guy-you're hired.

Hello, the post is hypothetical-your scope of history is at the kindergarten
level. Where did you study? Whatsamatta U?.



reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 01:53 AM by iiinvision
Originally posted by Electricneo
reply to
post by Ahabstar




Hello, the post is hypothetical-your scope of history is at the kindergarten
level. Where did you study? Whatsamatta U?.


LOL

thats some funny #. what are you smoking? can I get some...lol

you haven't done enough research. I would choose obama over mc cain if I were to even choose at all, and if my vote even mattered, but the fact is, is that it doesn't.

Either one is going to be a puppet, and the change obama is talking about is not necessarily the change you think it is.

There is no one person that can make people live in peace.

There is no path to peace.

Peace is the path.

Obama is not going to achieve that with rhetoric, thats for sure. Its going to take each and everyone of us to make a change.

quit following and start leading


reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 09:10 AM by pooty
Originally posted by Electricneo
MLK- Martin Luther King- who gets a holiday for his visionary conduct-
was against the Vietnam war-was against all wars and violence for that matter.
Violence and war is all that McCain's knows.
It's so obvious that McCain (and Bush for that matter) would get Hitler's vote.
McCain would get Charles Manson's vote.
Obama would get Bobby Kennedy's vote.
McCain would get Satan's vote.
Obama would get Jesus's and Ghandhi's vote.
McCain would get Ted Stevens (the indicted felon Senator from Alaska's) vote.
Obama would get Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore's vote.

McCain is a pimp for the oil companies.
Obama wants to tax the oil companies record profits and give you $1000.

McCain is the reincarnation of the foolhardy General Custer.
Obama is the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln.

This election is so obvious that anyone supporting McCain is for
the destruction of America. Oil companies cannot make huge profits off of solar and wind therefore McCain supports more oil drilling that way oil companies can continue to gouge Americans. Same with nuclear power
-they can control the energy source and make huge profits. The oil companies cannot control the sun and wind and are doing everything they can to prevent a huge push in that direction. The oil companies want everyone locked into oil and therefore are responsible for the rising economic power of the middle east.


I guess it's pretty obvious who'll get your vote.However I doubt Bobby Kennedy would vote for Obama as he believed in the constitution unlike Obama.Jesus?Jesus believed in the kingdom government and would not have had anything to do with the united states government including voteing
for either of these corporate scumbags.


reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 09:34 AM by crmanager
reply to post by Electricneo



Oh My...

"Satan would vote for McCain. Jesus would vote for Obama."

At first I thought you were simply trying to start a fight to generate points. Then I realized you were serious.

Let us run with this idea.

Jesus has a vote. He gives it to Obama. That would make Obama more powerful then Jesus.

O.K.

Saint Obama.

No that is too small.

The Messiah?

Nope. That is still too limiting.

That leaves "The Lord Obama Alimighty." Has a nice ring.

You are one interesting person to even propose this line of thinking.


reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 05:33 PM by Ahabstar
reply to post by Electricneo



Whoa, whoa...I know the "I Have a Dream" speech very well. I also personally know the nephew of John Carlos and before you ask, he was the 1968 Bronse Medal winner in that very famous photo with bowed head and raised black gloved fist to silently protest the treatment of blacks in America at the Mexico City Olympics. And I can tell you that Malcom X was listened to and he movitated by percentages more of the people who listened to him to stand up for their rights. And as I said, if he had a larger following the Civil Rights Era would have been quite different.

As for a Hilter apologist, no not in the slightest. I said I was hitting his good points. And for the record, I am pro-individual choice in the smoking issue so that was a backdoor slam on old Adolph.I have found states passing no smoking legislation to be violating the Constitution actually as owning/running a business is a right of the people not the federal, state or local government. By not allowing a person to run their business as they see fit the laws are in violation of both the 10th Amendment and Article 4 Section 2, "The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states." In otherwords if a business owner is free to allow smoking in MI, KY, PA, IA, KS, MS, MO, AL, AR then OH, CA, GA, FL, MN, NY and few others are in violation. Say what you want about States being free to write their own laws but might I remind you that the Jim Crow laws in various state were indeed laws as well, they also violated the Constitution and were illegal. Granted there is a world of difference between the two issuses but facts are facts.


History is what happened, revisionism is what is accepted as happened. Big big difference. And my kindergardener teacher informed us that Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy were not real, much to the outrage of a few parents because she naturally could not answer the next question of if Jesus was fake too and that was how the parents found out about that little bit of curriculum., when the kids came home asking if Jesus and God were real.

But don't me wrong, I am glad that you responded. It make make you look up if what anything I said was true or if I was just blowing smoke.


Side note to crmanager: Do you think perhaps all this time it was a mistranslation and Jesus actually said, "I Am the Alpha and the Obama"?


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