Pag Triangle - probably the best UFO hard evidence, page 3

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reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 02:25 PM by spookjr

reply to post by zorgon

Sounds like you have inside information on the propulsion system of alien spacecraft. Pretty interesting considering the fact that unless you are a government agent that has seen these things for yourself ,you have no clue(like the rest of us) as to what they use for propulsion. Or are you just hypothesizing?

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 02:26 PM by Nohup

Well, it certainly isn't flat, or smooth, or mathematically perfect in any way. I mean, compared to something like the pyramids, I would have to say that in this case the aliens really did a lousy job.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 02:27 PM by spookjr

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 02:36 PM by InfaRedMan

reply to post by zorgon

I agree with you Zorgon - about the rocks within the triangle not being vitrified. I was actually responding to to Op's claim that the rocks were "Melted". I also agree that UFO propulsion (as we understand it) would not heat the rock. Well.... not to the point of vitrification anyway.

Perhaps a combustion engine would, such as a rocket - but no one's going to get here from another planet or dimension using combustion engines I would imagine

If that was the case, then Rendlesham Forrest would have been burnt to a cinder! LOL!

IRM

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 02:42 PM by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by zorgon

Well all the G-men I know say one thing... once they have been read into a project they cannot discuss it AT ALL... just like an active court case

Again I agree Zorgon, but to say your one, does not necessarily make it so. If I was one, (a good one) I wouldn't be dropping bread crumbs or alluding to it in any way unless I was trying to suggest I was "In The Know" - and that would only be to add gravity to my claim.

IRM

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reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:02 PM by Spooky Fox Mulder

Originally posted by NGC2736
Just a friendly gentle reminder to keep it civil.

Civility and Decorum

Thank you.

Now, in the words of Anthony Robbins:

Fist, they find it ridiculous.

Then, they try to debunk it.

And finally, they see it as obvious.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:05 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by spookjr
Or are you just hypothesizing?

Considering Pegasus is an active research group looking into that 'area' I would say no... I am not 'hypothesizing' but I don't have the time in this thread to fill you in

You could also try listening to Boyd Bushman, look around American Anitgravity and snoop around at the LANL archives under 'gravity shielding'

[edit on 4-8-2008 by zorgon]

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:07 PM by zorgon

Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Now, in the words of Anthony Robbins:

He stole it

The actual quote is...

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:11 PM by franspeakfree

I found the thread interesting, its nice to learn about new theories and regions thanks for sharing it with us

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:15 PM by Nohup

Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Fist, they find it ridiculous.
Then, they try to debunk it.
And finally, they see it as obvious.

I don't think Tony Robbins was talking about this particular thing. I believe he was talking about ideas and concepts. It doesn't work as well for things that can be proven empirically. Like the Moon being made of green cheese. Either it is, or it isn't, and science, not public opinion will be the determining factor.

Anyway, I somehow doubt that someday we're all going to agree that this rocky little triangle shape in the middle of this goat pasture was "obviously" all along a trace made by an alien UFO.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:16 PM by Blaine91555

There are multiple precipitates that could account for the appearance of the rocks. I've seen an *Onyx bed in Utah that had a very similar appearance. If you dug down a bit you found that the sun and environment had a profound impact on the surface rock. The underlying material is translucent and vitreous. There are also huge beds of Trona in Wyoming that look very similar. Trona is mined for sodium bicarbonate which is used in many products. These beds were originally laid down on the bottoms of ancient lakes and seas. Trona also breaks down and has that appearance on the surface when exposed.

*I'm not referring to the wrongly named black onyx you see in jewelry which is actually an agate or jet.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:20 PM by Nohup

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Now, in the words of Anthony Robbins:

He stole it

The actual quote is...
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

"A marketable idea passes through three stages. First, it is obscure. Second, it is found by Tony Robbins and paraphrased. Third, it is put in Robbins's seminars and book, and sold so he can buy a new boat."
Nohup
Internet Wiseacre

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:27 PM by USMC-oorah

Originally posted by Psychopump

Originally posted by seenitall
I would have thought that a professional working for an 'agency' would recognise the rocks as being sedimentary, rather than '3 coloured'...

I don´t think they look sedimentary. They look more crystalline to me.

A question though:
Has anyone else noticed a sudden influx of posts coming from people who work for mysteriously unnamed "organizations" and "agencies"?

I was thinking the exact same thing. I've seen quite a few this past month, or two.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 03:32 PM by IgnoreTheFacts

reply to post by USMC-oorah

Member's notice of a bunch of bunk posts are not misplaced. There are certain banned members (who I have heard through the gravevine) that are orchestrating an effort to post nonsense on ATS to "ruin" the board. Also, they are doing it at a time when most members will blame it on school children on summer break here in the USA. Not so, unfortunately, there is no way for ATS to weed out these posts, and the members need to police our own so to speak. Both believer and skeptic alike need to let those posts die by not replying, otherwise you just encourage it.

On Topic of this thread, pretty weak stuff here, and by far nothing that sheds any light on the subject. Things like this, magnified by ignorance make us all look like fools and is the single reason why this subject can't be taken seriously by the mainstream.

From now on, all of us need to decide if we want to be a part of the problem, or a a part of the solution.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 04:28 PM by zorgon

Now THAT made me laugh Nohup

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts

Also, they are doing it at a time when most members will blame it on school children on summer break here in the USA.

Sounds like they ARE the children

Funny this thread already has 20 flags... Now I like rocks myself and rocks' are certainly 'hard' but why the flags with no substance?

From now on, all of us need to decide if we want to be a part of the problem, or a a part of the solution.

Ah what the heck let's go with part of the problem... I get accused of that anyway

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 10:37 PM by Spooky Fox Mulder

Originally posted by spookjr
reply to post by zorgon

Sounds like you have inside information on the propulsion system of alien spacecraft. Pretty interesting considering the fact that unless you are a government agent that has seen these things for yourself ,you have no clue(like the rest of us) as to what they use for propulsion. Or are you just hypothesizing?

I am no government agent. I belong to another organization.

And no, unfortunately I cannot share more inside information on the topic. I have said what I can say within our parameters.

Have a good day.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 10:39 PM by SonicInfinity

Originally posted by zorgon
Funny this thread already has 20 flags... Now I like rocks myself and rocks' are certainly 'hard' but why the flags with no substance?

You should see some of the Mars threads.

This Pag Triangle seems interesting. The OP should have brought with him a detector (or whatever they're called) that could read certain energy levels of the area to see if that "strange feeling" could have been measured. Having data down of increased energy levels in the area could further prove the argument.

reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 10:44 PM by solo1

Geodes all over the place in my back yard, it doesn't mean Aliens are here.
the piles of rocks could be old graves, or even ancient Stone circles which were common.
I enjoyed your story and the pictures too, I am glad you posted it.
good luck from Canada

reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 01:15 AM by Anonymous ATS

I think if you can believe or see that is real than it is real, don let the government twist your mind into believing otherwise, there are so many other galaxies and constelations in this universe, who's to say there arent any life forms on those planets in other galaxies? I mean we cant be the only planet with life, and who's to say if there are others out there maybe some are human, or another species, who can argue that point if we dont go and see for ourselves? And who knows they could have the ability to create an advanced aircraft such as the so called UFO. there is proof of an UFO then it goes to show that there are other more advanced lifeforms and technologies out there.