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Beheading victim was being eatin on bus!


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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 10:24 AM by Double Eights


Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by Techsnow
I thought the same thing until I saw what the victim text his girlfriend.


The killer was a 40 year old Chinese guy, a "model employee". That does not fit the profile of the typical recreational drug user. Just becasue some people on the bus were doing drugs it does not in any way imply THIS guy was on drugs.

If you think back and review the really violent, crazy crimes (spree killers and such) virtually NONE of them are on recreational drugs. Though it would be interesting to find out how the people that were rolling differed in their reactions. Were they calmer? Did it bother them more after?


A 40-year old "model employee" Chinese guy also doesn't fit the profile of a typical murderer who eats his victims and beheads them.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Sonya610


Originally posted by Double EightsA 40-year old "model employee" Chinese guy also doesn't fit the profile of a typical murderer who eats his victims and beheads them.



Yes but remember the guy had a "big knife" and scissors on him. If he just got on the bus and took drugs and went nuts why was he already carrying weapons? He had been acting odd for a couple of days, not calling his job and such, which was odd behavior in his case. Sounds like he was losing his mind possibly for a few days.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 12:42 PM by jackinthebox


I hate to stereotype, but the victim looks like the "user" sort, not the offender.

With that said, I'm gonna come in completely out of left field. Seeing the victim's myspace page, I see things like interest in ICP and a touch of the violent and macabre. Is it possible, that while tripping on something, a person could actually "open a door" into reality that will let something like this in? I mean, is tripping really just in one's head, or does it actually bend and effect reality? Is it possible that some substance could actually heighten or intensify "the power of attraction?"

EDIT to add: Please understand that I am not trying to make up any excuses for the nut wacko perp, or denegrate the memory of the victim.

[edit on 8/3/0808 by jackinthebox]



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 12:51 PM by clg79


I remember reading the first time the news was posted on here. A few of the ATS members went in claiming the attacker was "Native" or "First Nations" and yet the opposite was true. The man who was killed was part Native, and the attacker as we see is an Asian man.

Regardless of the race game some played on that other thread. I do think the victim was and still is a precious individual. We can remember how he was in life and try our best to treat others the way he treated people.

The best always die young, and to be taken the way he got taken shows you what he was like. Nobody deserves to die like this, and it is a very grim reminder to people to treat one another as you would want to be treated. He never hurt anyone and yet he died this way. Doesn't it tell you something about this world we live in? That while the rest (some of) of the people on the bus were drugged up with ecstasy here was a man just traveling around and seeing the world only to have that life taken.

These are the times our children are growing up in. If this was my child I would have picked the person up myself even if I had to hitch-hike to pick up the person. I could not let my son travel back and forth in this kind of world. Even if my son hated me and denied me for protecting him.

Protect your family in these days otherwise you just might hear of something bad happening to them.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 12:53 PM by jackinthebox


Here is another track to take in the conspiratorial angle. This guy started plucking off teens at a swimming hole with an assault rifle, then surrendered to police without incident...

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Coincidence?



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:13 PM by purplecoral


I haven't read every one of the news pieces on this, but as only one person has pointed out- there are reports of people running away from this attack, the driver said "someone is being stabbed, please leave the bus".... but no one tried to intervene... i would understand this reaction if the man was waving a gun around, but didn't anyone do anything except run away??



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:19 PM by ATS4dummies


Yet another reason to support the vegetarian lifestyle!

Sorry man, this is so gruesome, my sence of just humor kicks in to compensate.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:19 PM by HanAlec19


Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I remember a while back, maybe 5yrs ago, there was this hip hop artist, he had taken some formaldehyde and was tripping.

later on he started to eat his girlfriend, he ate her all up, he was later found by police on the streets naked with blood all over him, he was crying and screaming saying i ate my girlfriend, i ate my girlfriend.

this could also have been a side effect of some sort.


The rappers name was Big Lurch in case anyone wanted to know...I think he got off on insanity?



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:22 PM by windwaker


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Wow. You might be right about the Law Of Attraction having a very, very negative effect. I believe this is possible.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:23 PM by ATS4dummies


Originally posted by Double Eights
If you think back and review the really violent, crazy crimes (spree killers and such) virtually NONE of them are on recreational drugs.


$20 bucks says this guy stopped taking his anti-depressive medication. Thats the one thing all these "spree killers" you mention *did* have in common.


[edit on 3-8-2008 by ATS4dummies]

[edit on 3-8-2008 by ATS4dummies]



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:39 PM by Sonya610


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Yeah from the witness statements they all just screamed and ran. No one tried to intervene at all. There is something so creepy about that. I mean I could sort of understand people being stunned and maybe not jumping in to stop it immediately, but to just run and leave the victim to scream as he is butchered.

People are becoming so passive, so sheep like it is really unsettling. Makes a case for more military service. I would think if a couple of ex-military men were on that bus they would have been able to do something besides scream like little girls and run.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:47 PM by starviego


Why did the cops call the perp "Badger?" That sounds like a code name military jet jockeys give each other. Did they already know him?

How much time between the perp last being seen by his relatives and when he showed up on the bus? And where was he?



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:52 PM by solo1


Does anyone know if this happens with other Asians is it in their culture
to do this as some sort of ritual ?



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:01 PM by Sonya610


Originally posted by ATS4dummies$20 bucks says this guy stopped taking his anti-depressive medication. Thats the one thing all these "spree killers" you mention *did* have in common.


Hmmmm...SRI withdrawl can cause severe emotional swings, and raise the risk of suicide or homicide, and yeah it may inspire some to get on a rooftop and start shooting, but decapitation and cannibalism? I don't think so.

Course the pharma companies have a good setup, if the person has NOT taken their prescribed dose the drug will not be blamed. Some SRI's, like Paxil have really really bad withdrawl symptoms, I am quite sure that has resulted in quite a few deaths.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:01 PM by Finn1916


Originally posted by Sonya610
reply to post by purplecoral



Yeah from the witness statements they all just screamed and ran. No one tried to intervene at all. There is something so creepy about that. I mean I could sort of understand people being stunned and maybe not jumping in to stop it immediately, but to just run and leave the victim to scream as he is butchered.

People are becoming so passive, so sheep like it is really unsettling. Makes a case for more military service. I would think if a couple of ex-military men were on that bus they would have been able to do something besides scream like little girls and run.


I brought that up in one of the other threads about this on belowtopsecret. people said i was nuts for thinking this way, cause no one woud want to ge involved with a knife weilding person. No one tinks "Hey, these seat cusions wouod make great sheilds let's beat this guy down so he stops"



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:05 PM by jackinthebox


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Maybe a loy of the passengers were in fact on ecstasy, which made them very docile, and in no mental condition to meet violence with overwhleming violence.



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:21 PM by ZindoDoone


Grab the damned buses fire extinguisher, blast the idiot in the eyes and beat the screwball silly with it till the cops arive. Put down the extinguisher and walk away....fast!!!! Use the weapons that are available to protect yourself or others! Stop being such weenines in this world. Its what lets crazies become copycats. If you ignore the problem..someday it might be you thats the one eaten!!!


Zindo



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:31 PM by starviego


Originally posted by solo1
Does anyone know if this happens with other Asians is it in their culture
to do this as some sort of ritual ?


Could be:


6-8-01
Ikeda Elementary School, Ikeda, Osaka Prefecture, Japan
Mamoru Takuma, 37, stabbed and wounded 13 first- and second-graders and two teachers. He killed seven girls, ranging in age from seven- to eight-years-old, and one six-year-old boy.


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9-4-02
Neung Dong Church Elementary School, Seoul, South Korea
A man identified only as Hwang, 53, started slashing the students. Nine students were wounded.


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8-4-04
The Nursery (Kindergarten) at Beijing University Number One Hospital, Beijing, China
Xu Heping, 51, pulled out a kitchen knife and began "hacking people up at the kindergarten." During his rampage Xu wounded 15 young children, three teachers and killed a 4-year-old boy with the knife.

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9-11-04
A Day Care Center in Suzhou City, Jiangsu, China
Yang Guozhu, 41, broke into the day care center armed with a knife, some gasoline and home-made explosives. He slashed 28 children and was about to light up the explosives with the gasoline when the police arrived and stopped him. All of the wounded students survived.

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9-20-04
Number 1 Experimental Primary School, Juxian County, Shandong Province, China
Jia Qingyou, 36. lashed out at the children in the school with a kitchen knife. He cut 25 children on their arms and faces in his rage, but they all survived.

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10-21-04
Beixin Kindergarten, Beijing, China
Fu Hegong killed 5 with bricks, knives, a blanket and a fire extinguisher.

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11-25-04
Number 2 High School, Ruzhou, Henan Province, China
21-year-old Yan Yanming broke into the dormitory of the school and stabbed nine boys to death as they slept.

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12-3-04
Central Primary School, Mingcheng Township, Panshi, Jilin Province, China
Around 9:00 this morning, Liu Zhigang stabbed 12 first-graders and then cut his own throat before being restrained by school staff and police. The 30-year-old stabbed five boys and seven girls.

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2-14-05
Chuo Elementary School, Neyagawa, Osaka Prefecture, Japan
A 17-year-old boy returns to his elementary school at 3 p.m. today and attacks three teachers.

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4-4-06
Nansan Middle School, Zhanjiang, Guangdong Province, China
A man identified only as Meng broke into one of the classrooms and used a kitchen knife to injure eight students, two boys and six girls.

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9-9-05
St. Joseph Convent (Middle) School, Bangkok, Thailand
Jitrada Tantiwanich-ayasuk, 31 entered a classroom and attacked four students, severely stabbing three of them.


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5-15-07 ~ Maoming, China
Wu Jianguo, a 17-year-year at Maoming's Number Three Middle School in the Guangdong province stabbed two classmates to death.

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1-5-08
A 16-year-old boy attacked shoppers with knives in Tokyo in January, injuring two.
The teen, who was wearing a black jacket and black jeans, was holding a kitchen knife in each hand and had a knife hidden in his shoe.


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2-25-08 ~ Leizhou, Guangdong, China
A young man, Chen Wenzhen broke into Leizhou No. 2 Middle School and killed a boy and a girl with a knife and injured four (three students & a teacher) before he stabbed himself and jumped off the fifth floor, dying by suicide.

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3-23-08 Japan
Masahiro Kanagawa, 24, stabbed eight people, killing one, outside a mall in Tsuchiura, Ibaraki prefecture north of the capital.

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6-8-08 Tokyo, Japan
Tomohiro Kato, 25, rammed a truck into pedestrians, then slashed his way with a survival knife through Sunday shopping crowds, killing seven people and wounding 10



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reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 02:33 PM by bDaedal4ever


So I'm reading this article and telling my girlfriend about the details of this additional finding and she asks "is he mentally stable?", And I say "Yeah, he's in perfect health, he just needed sustinence". She's a healthcare professional and she starts laughing and says "you don't have to be sarcastic", "let me reword that, do they know if he has a mental heath history?"
I don't mean to make light the issue here. I haven't commented on this in the other post because it's so grissly and had me disturbed as it must have for many of us.



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