Is this a veiled, although apparent attempt at silencing by humiliating those who post anything anti Obama?

Silence the opposition

I have a lot I would like to say, yet I am afraid to say anything, so intimidation does work.

BTW I just finished reading this thread.

Cindy McCain: Drug Addict, Thief,

Saw some of you there.

Have a lovely day.

Originally posted by LLoyd45
Forum gangs suggest collusion HAL. Do you have any hard proof? This is the second time you've mentioned this in one of your posts. I'm sure we both could make a list of people we consider to be a part of a forum gang, but that doesn't really prove anything. Until there's some concrete evidence, they're just unsubstantiated allegations.

Oh, so anyone can post any ridiculous claim about Obama without proof, but when I suggest collusion, I have to provide proof? Sorry I'm not a moderator, otherwise I would.

I realize it's a conspiracy site, but surely the moderators would be aware of such activities if it were occurring. More likely, it's simply a case of like-minded members from both sides being drawn to the same type of threads. Everyone is eager to support their own candidate.

I can't speak for the mods either, but if they did, members would complain that they are censoring people and favoring one side or the other. I think it is best they don't. It is up to the members to maintain the quality of ATS. It is what we make it. If you don't mind the ridiculous threads, then that's fine, but some of us see that this is diminishing the quality of the board. We also have a right to our opinion.

ATS posters never fail.....


Poor elitist attitude. So, people with no avatars have nothing good to say?

Almost sounds like, "we cling ro our religion and guns...."


Yet another reason why ATS is killing ATS.

Another dumb elitest thread from another monday morning ATS quarterback.

I am not eloquent and I am not prolific but I do have a keen ability to see through the BS.

Originally posted by Hal9000
Oh, so anyone can post any ridiculous claim about Obama without proof, but when I suggest collusion, I have to provide proof? Sorry I'm not a moderator, otherwise I would.

Unless I'm stating my opinion, I always provide a source for my so-called "ridiculous claims". Because you disagree with the contents of my post doesn't necessarily make it ridiculous.

I can't speak for the mods either, but if they did, members would complain that they are censoring people and favoring one side or the other. I think it is best they don't. It is up to the members to maintain the quality of ATS. It is what we make it. If you don't mind the ridiculous threads, then that's fine, but some of us see that this is diminishing the quality of the board. We also have a right to our opinion.

I'm sure that claim would be made by both sides, and I agree we all need to be responsible for our own posts. But what constitutes a ridiculous post is a matter of opinion.

I think posts about fighting with aliens in my bedroom are over the top. Do posts like that that diminish the quality of the board? Probably half the post on ATS are about aliens and UFOS, and apparently a lot of people believe in them and find them a credible topic.

Who am I to say their beliefs are ridiculous? I don't have to agree with them, just respect their right to believe as they choose.

I never said you didn't have a right to your opinion HAL, but I'm also entitled to mine just like everyone else.

[edit on 4-8-2008 by LLoyd45]

Originally posted by LLoyd45
I think posts about fighting with aliens in my bedroom are over the top. Do posts like that that diminish the quality of the board? Probably half the post on ATS are about aliens and UFOS, and apparently a lot of people believe in them and find them a credible topic.

I see your point LLoyd, and for once your right.

I hadn't thought of it that way. I guess we should put up with the ridiculous political threads along with the others. Not that complaining about it would have made any difference anyway.

Originally posted by Hal9000
I guess you could say that the members that are obsessed with bashing Obama are also kind of a cult. Don't you think?

Think about it. I don't know ANY Obama supporters who approve of Obama 100%. None of his supporters here on the board seems to me to be in an "Obama cult". People have REAL, VALID reasons for wanting him to be president, whether it be their agreement with him on the issues, the idea of something different than the past 8 years, the fact that he's a Democrat or the fact that he's articulate, intelligent and presents a new and different face that the rest of the world can respect. All of his supporters have very good and logical reasons.

The ONLY people I hear talking about a "cult" or "messiah" or in any way implying that he's some kind of "savior" are the Obama haters. And their reasons? Well, let's just say they're "imaginative". In other words, they are pretty much made up, total lies or grossly exaggerated.

So, who is living in an "Obama fantasy" world here? Who is IN the Obama cult? Someone who has very valid and logical reasons for supporting him? Or someone who is SO focused and obsessive about tearing him down with false and meaningless accusations (too skinny???) that they cannot stop looking for reasons and ways to attack him?

Who exactly is obsessed with Obama here???

Originally posted by TheRepublic
your reasons for liking him being "hes a democrat" "hes black" well neither one of those is a real issue.

Those are not my reasons.

who cares?

Maybe not you. But they are valid reasons for some people. Open your mind. Stretch it a little. Try to conceive a world where someone else can care about something that you don't care about. Use your imagination and picture other people using their minds to think instead of yours....

clinging to trite reasons like those strike me as cult like behavior.

Because they're not YOUR reasons for supporting someone? Read over the above paragraph a few times. See if anything lights up.

Originally posted by TheRepublic
voting for someone because the color of their skin = stupid
voting for someone because the party they belong to = stupid
voting for someone because the media says hes great = stupid
anyone that engages in any of the above = stupid

voting on real issues = smart

Ooohhh! Thanks for clearing that up! For a minute there, I was thinking your were closed-minded!

if "opening my mind a little" means caring about superficial bull poop while the country goes to hell, than id rather not.

No. I didn't think you would get it.

Opening your mind a little means saying to yourself, "I know the ONLY valid reason for me to vote for someone is because of the issues. That's how I feel and how I think. And that's fine. I do realize, however, that other people have other priorities and even though I may disagree with them, I respect their right to chose their criteria for voting for someone. It may be something that I find unimportant, but if they think it's important, then it's a valid reason FOR THEM, it's just not a valid reason for me."

Or you can just continue to think that everyone who doesn't think and operate just like you is "stupid"... and that you're "smart". That seems to be working for ya.

I live in Illinios I grew up with the Daley machine, we down staters understand upstate politics and Chicago politicians, Obama is Daley's guy, in some of my Post I have tried to gain insight into this phenomenon. I am trying to be fair. I have nothing but disdain for politicians,

To me this forum is a place to investigate, there is nothing more stimulating then the researching, I have not endorsed a candidate, nor participated or trolled the anti McCain threads, save one where he was called racist, even though they are the adoptive parents of a child from Bangladesh, I felt the need to point that out.

more later,

I do take offense at being labeled.