Originally posted by Vasa Croe
This comes from this thread.


I had to start this because of my strong feelings in the case of civilians not doing anything to help someone being butchered in front of them. I am a very confident and strong advocate for gun permits. I carry daily and would not be caught without it. The simple fact is that unless you have been in a situation where someone is there to cause you or a loved one bodily harm you probably would not feel the same way. I have been on a few occasions and that is what prompted me to get myself and other family members licenses and pistols, as well as training on how to use their weapons.

I for one and not someone that will sit idly by and watch as a fellow citizen is being attacked regardless of if I have a weapon on me or not. What is the difference in this and if there were say a woman being raped in front of you? Would you stop the rapist or just watch? Sure there is a definite risk of bodily harm being that this psycho had a knife, but can you really live with yourself after watching him get butchered and you have done nothing but run?


It outrages me that nobody on that bus even tried to help the guy getting stabbed and beheaded, yet the media has decided they were courageous for jumping off the bus as quickly as possible.

If there are that many people on a bus they can overwhelm a knife wielding maniac pretty easily, yet nobody seems to have even remotely tried to stop this from happening.

There are numerous posters on the other thread that made this about Canada and the US, but that is not what I want to focus on here.....I would like to think that any ordinary citizen that truly cares about society, has morals and values, and a genuine caring for life would have tried to do something for the victim in this case.

I find it appalling that the media would go as far as to call the passengers courageous for jumping off the bus and not trying to help.

Truly sick to my stomach that people still think that it is ok for gov't to keep us unarmed and that this is the safest way to live. It is not....it IS however the safest way for violent criminals to take advantage of a system that favors them now. This guy is being charged with only SECOND DEGREE MURDER!!!!! No weapons just makes it that much easier for a criminal to do their business without the worry of becoming a victim themselves. I know if I were a violent criminal I would be in California where I know most are unarmed. But if you come to my home town in GA there is a law on the books that EVERY homeowner must have a gun......this is where I feel safest...with people that will stand up and not let someone TAKE what is theirs, including their life.

Gun control nuts really bug me with their righteous views on how gov't and police will make everything right. If that is the case then how did this young victim not survive, and how is the murderer only getting charged with second degree murder......ridiculous! Most firearm related murders in the US are not from robberies, they are from gang violence and it stays for the most part in the gang laced neighborhoods. More people still die from smoking and heart disease every year than gun violence.

And I still challenge anyone that is against legal carry of weapons to find some statistic that shows that licensed concealed carry permit holders in fact contribute to unwarranted gun violence. Not that they shot an intruder/attacker, but that they initiated the act of violence against the victim.