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reply posted on 2-8-2008 @ 02:06 PM by Fulcrum29
Originally posted by depetydog
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post by Fulcrum29



I SEE A LARGE STONE OR CONCRETE STAIRWAY, A BACK DROP OF LARGE TALL BUILDINGS, A BUILDING WITH PILLARS ON IT, AS CRAZY AS IT SOME KIND ROW OF LIGHTS AND A BIRD SYMBOL , LIKE AND EAGLE.WHEREVER YOU ARE , IT IS ON A LOWER LEVEL THAN MOST AROUND YOU, BUT NOT BELOW GROUND.THE ROOM YOUR IN HAS A WINDOW WHICH LOOKS OUT BUT THE VIEW OF THE CITY IS BEHIND THIS ROOM AWAY FROM THIS WINDOW. A SADDLED HORSE IS IN THIS VISION, THE SMELL OF LEATHER IS EXTREME.
I SEE POSTERS ON WALLS OR ARTWORK OF TIMES PAST.


sorry buddy completely off. right now I'm staying in a rural type location small house ona lake type of environment. There's no large buildings whatsoever and no sharpened steel knives or weapons to my knowledge other than 1 or 2 semi dull kitchen knives in the kitchen. No stone pillars or monuments of eagles and no marble staircases in fact almost nothing made of marble or stone at all, just typical ol' wood. I AM originally from new york city and just moved here temporarily/recently but even if you were to describe my living quarters in brooklyn that description doesn't seem to fit as there weren't any eagle statues or knives or any of those things you described in or around my apartment complex.

edit: the only possible "hit" that you had in your description is the 2 connections of saddled horses and 'artwork' on the walls, being that we have several portraits of horses (paintings) hanging on the walls because one of my aunts is obsessed with painting horses and gives her paintings out but that would put your hit rate at about 10-15% given the number of things you described inaccurately so i wouldn't put too much credence to it.

[edit on 2-8-2008 by Fulcrum29]


reply posted on 2-8-2008 @ 08:47 PM by golemina
I guess the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

You know DepetyDog one of the things about being clued in, is realizing the futility of striving so hard to make someone see the truth, that simply isn't ready, able or in most of your respondents in this thread CAPABLE of understanding pretty much ANYTHING about your message.

They are totally locked into their belief systems...

If you remove the emotional attribute from their barbs, it becomes transparent that they're mostly knuckleheads... and you're basically arguing with parrots.

Squawk! We make robots therefore we are!



It's really hard to argue with a guy that is apparently unable to know the difference between a closed-system and open-system automaton.

Yo dude! Exactly how many robots are roaming the streets?

Are they parked in your levitating house in the garage right next to your flying car?



Instead of wasting your time arguing about the angel count on the needle head could we possibly talk about some of the absolutely fascinating aspects of your story... which it would seem has blown by some of these guys like a 102 mph fastball.

Can you share with us the details of the reel of your vision? I have some friends that seem to have had that exact vision and they have stated that the vividness of these type of visions are so powerful that there is little doubt about it's nature...

The same was true of the reels played for these guys prior to the tsunami (approximately 2 weeks before it happened). Did you experience one of those also?



[edit on 2-8-2008 by golemina]



reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 01:08 AM by depetydog
i awakened from the dream dripping in sweat, i was in a excited over joyous mood because I learned that people really werent going to be killed like they all thought they would, that it was only misinformation or misdirection to get everyone else that didn't get taken not to go looking for people knowing they were dead. I was only an observer, I wasnt involved within the dream. The people that were gassed was only knock out gas, the people were unloaded and taken away to the crafts. some trains were full of captured aliens, these the media covered, the other trains had people in them , but they werent shackled. Also the people that were gassed were gassed as soon as the train pulled away and the gas disipated out through the grids in the train cars. People were told different things at different points by different people, for example , getting on the train they were being taken to safety, just not really explained to them just how far that trip really was going to be , if you know what i mean. I had no visions of anyone being harmed on the trains. I also realized in the dream the reasoning for the remote areas were because of the alien craft landings. The places the people were being taken were worlds that were beautiful and seemed heavenly compared to living here. I seen one world that had two suns and looked like it was covered in meadows and had lots of vegetation , it was called treos. I overheard someone say it was a dimensional copy of our world, and that we were to colonize it, that was pretty much the theme. the aliens that i seen were like small children, wearing blue uniforms. I could not make out the writing on there suits, but the symbol was two circles with a z going through them, like an infinity symbol that zorro carved over on. The only people that I seen getting hurt were the ones that were hurting other people trying to run away or get away from the police, they were tazered by a shotgun blast tazer, it was something shot out of a shotgun that shocked you , I call it taze, its what it looked like, and they were just stunned, these people were shackled.
looking at the craft leaving from the ground i seen the people were not afraid ,they were waving like they were going on a cruise or something.
The soldiers starting cleaning up the mess that was left behind, cars stalled in roads, fires in buildings burning. They also continued to round up people. The wierd thing is this, most of the whole population was taken, like everyone, one guy said that all the people had been chosen already and have already been taken below and protected, already under rule of the NWO, underground. From everything I gathered from everything I have seen, we will basically be set free somewhere else and allowed to do what we do now, just develop. That is the slavery aspect, kept like an ant colony. We will be told we were taken to save our lives, like noah took the animals before the flood, our purpose as slaves is as the same as it exists now, just live and work and build a new world, and maybe with there help do it less violently that we have here, there there will not be the negative influences that exist here. Plus is everyone is dna coded and familys wont be seperated. That much I got from them taking a sample and tagging us electronically like we tag research animals.
I learned that it isnt a sinister plot that the taking of us was done purposely to remove us from the drakonian influences and served to help some other race to crossbreed with us to elevate both of our evolution. So where we go there will be a simular race to ours that we will crossbreed with us. the bottom line was many of them were all killed in a huge war and the only way to replenish there humanity is to borrow ours. You have to forgive all this seems crazy I know, but it is about a huge coming together of many different facets that we become. We are devided once again into twelve different tribes, like in the story of babel and seperated.


reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 03:00 AM by Slothrop
reply to post by depetydog



have you read any of these in the original languages? as certain as you are of yourself, i only hope you're not relying on translations!


reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 10:33 AM by golemina
Hey Barburak this is for you... Aeiou.

It just seemed like you could use the help.

Maybe I've just somehow become jaded, but it seems to me that if you are going to start screaming that someone 'is a witch!' (or whatever), that you just might have just a little MORE specificity to your arguments.

-----------------

Thanks for sharing some of the details of your reel DepetyDog.

Your reel shares a lot of similarities with some of the guys I'm talking with. There are absolutely so many fascinating details (I'm told the reels are like in high definition and rich/multi-faceted, so depending on where you focus your perception you'll pick up on and follow different aspects of the reel contents).

The symbol is particularly fascinating.

Are you by chance an artist? Is there any way that you can draw what you saw (and possibly upload it)? A friend of mine doodled a similar symbol, I'll get their version so they can be compared. I'll also find out what context their symbol was presented in...

The recipient of the reel, I most recently talked to, stated their reel opening up with a huge light show in the sky, at night behind tall trees and a semi-clouded sky, and people were just standing outside and staring and that it then became apparent that their was some type of battle in the skys with what looked like energy beam weapons...

And of course it goes on from there.

It's always good to talk to a fellow seeker DepetyDog, I appreciate your efforts (and bravery )... especially in front of our panel of Thomases.



[edit on 3-8-2008 by golemina]


reply posted on 3-8-2008 @ 10:56 AM by baburak
reply to post by golemina



Did you even read my posts?.... I told that the Depetydog is just lying to bring some attention on him .... you can see it just from the theory .... but if you read his posts and how he changes it and every time adds new thing just to fill in the hole he made it's more then obvious ... Just read his last post ... he woke up all wet and had a vision of the things that covers up his last vision which was debunked ... ... come on .... first he had a vision of aliens that took us for slaves .... then when everyone here showed him that this "vision" is just &=#% he suddenly had another vision with another scenario? ... ... he just took all of the theories which were completely or partially debunked and putted them all toghether ... the holes that left were filled with movie crap ... ... just read his posts


reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 12:16 AM by golemina
Hey Bubarak.

I got to tell you it seems pretty impressive... 'I told that the Depetydog is just lying'... What are you actually reading DepetyDog's mind?

Are you reading DepetyDogs posts mind?

Tell me the source of how you seem to be able to... what, ascertain peoples thoughts... their intentions?

Any good prosecutor will tell you those two things... simply are NOT possible (at least by normal means ).

>' i'm going out of this thread'

Purely, your choice, but really uncalled for.

Based on the views you project, you seem to be implying that you somehow have your feet firmly planted on the ground, are well grounded in reality, and that you seem to have a reasonable grasp of that cause and effect thing.

And that our thread starter, DepetyDog, is well... you know... somewhere out 'there'!

Listen bro, I'm sorry to tell, you probably have it BACKWARDS.



Ouch! (And I KNOW ).

Though I can NOT personally vouch for DepetyDog (cuz I don't know the person), I can tell you for sure there are LOTS of people having EXACTLY these type of exchanges...

And if that wasn't bad enough, that a data channel of this type could EVEN exist, the thing you might perceive as something along the lines of 'reality' is totally bogus, just a bs sense of 'knowing' or 'normality' that a huge majority of humans seem to require to even be able to function in any capacity whatsoever.

In a nutshell, almost the entirely of what is viewed as 'knowledge' is basically just a child's fairy tale and what is truly astounding of this human condition is it's unending ability to not have the most blatant and glaring contradications that are in the viewfinder everywhere humanity looks to not even trigger a baseline threshold of even BEING OBSERVED.

So what? you say...

In all fairness to the basic thrust of your efforts, sure there is some EXTRAPOLATION/INTRAPOLATION of the actual events (read: the vision) to somehow span our reality framework...

Hey it IS TOTALLY STRANGE!

But dude, these EXACT type same messages occurred PRIOR to the tsunami and... I don't know...

In retropspect... Don't you think there are a few folks in the world who might be thinking maybe we should have listened to those guys?

How about we cut ole DepetyDog just a little slack?




reply posted on 4-8-2008 @ 07:05 PM by euclid
I haven't read all of the intervening posts; just the first few that the OP made. He may be more correct than anyone realizes..... the nomenclature/semantics don't matter. The gestalt of his proposal is very plausible.

If there is an inter-galactic network of alien civilizations logic dictates that they would have very similar, if not the same, political and economic impetus/motivators/constraints as we do on our planet with the various geo-political mechanisms/institutions/organizations (NGO's, governments, special interests groups, mulit-national-conglomerates, consortiums, etc).

Just because an advanced civilization has the capability to create a robotic work-force doesn't mean that they will. As an example: our automobile manufacturers have the capability to create cars that will get 150 MPG and more using the same gasoline we all currently pump into our cars today. They don't do it because it would cost a lot of other governments/industries a problem. In the same way; if these aliens created a robotic workforce there may be political/economic or other implications that we cannot understand/imagine.... because we don't currently possess an understanding of inter-galactic politics and galactic resource managment (if those concepts and organizations of government/politics even exist).

It may be as simple as this: Why create a robot workforce when we can harvest humans, put them into a catatonic state and control them just as easily as a robot? I can see how this would be a "cost" saver and provide an excellent ROI for the aliens. By harvesting humans they would not have the associated costs of: mining raw amterials for component fabrication for all the robotic elements, manufacturing, tooling, R&D, software programming, testing, QA, field deployment, maintenance & repair, spare-part manufacturing, technical training, and a host of other adjunt activities. Just gather a bunch of humans, put them in a catatonic state, feed them protien, work them to death and pick up some more.

I differ on many points from the OP and this culling "scenario" might not be limited to the "planet X" event..... think of the millions of people that go missing every year without a trace..... not the ones that are eventually proven to have been murdered or are alive somewhere else on the planet under alias'. I'm referring to the people who are gone without a trace; this big event is just what I would call the "Big Culling" (if it happens at all).

-Euclid


[edit on 4-8-2008 by euclid]


[edit on 4-8-2008 by euclid]


reply posted on 5-8-2008 @ 11:52 PM by golemina
Mindless babble?

Ouch! (I'm sure )

I guess for those of you with a too short an attention span to read a (OMG!) whopping six pages...

The core of the OP premise is a vision.

I've been referring to them (LOTS of people have them) as 'reels'.

They are basically VERY rich dreams, 100% not normal, instantly recognizable for what they are.

They also usually have a dramatic effect on the viewer...

((insert

We had one recently in Seattle about 4-5 AM where the message is some hard to grasp (contextually ) images and then a voice over that "We" are going to show (themselves) around Mt. Rainier.

Long story short, a big light show viewed by a nice number of folks... Reported on news as (obligatory ) meteorite.

Relevance?

Some of us knew about before it happened.

That's almost always as good as it gets.

Unless... YOU saw it.

and

\insert))

Which brings us back to DepetyDog.

I almost feel bad for some of you'all, especially you know it alls...

Slap! Nah... You guys speaking about something you absolutely no clue (or experience ) about...



Hey DepetyDog! I'm sorry to report back I came up blank on anything of substance... but I'll give you what I have.

The first occurance a friend of mine doddled an oval with basically a large 'J' with an elongated cap with like shrubbery sitting on a tray (that part out of focus). I misunderstood that it was part of their reel, but it turns out it was a symbol... having something somehow associated by/with me?? (Totally lame and I'm sorry)

Second symbol, same person, is like three swallows crashing together also within an oval. This person is just seeing this image over and over. What it means? No clue. This person is VERY dependable.

Next symbol... Opening part of a reel, very similar to yours DepetyDog. The symbol is shining in the sky (kind of like a bat signal ), semi behind the clouds, it's basically a white outline, oval with a medium density symbol in middle, wasn't focused on, so wasn't precisely viewed, but the whole thing kind of undulated like a thin fabric in the breeze.

Later, in the same reel, this guy a smallish, muscular outlined guy in a full body suit pops out of this ship no smaller than a small car but not tall in height, he also has an emblem, not viewed. Once again, sorry!

No REALLY what is WRONG with these people an alien jumps out of this ship and they can not exactly describe the details of the emblem on their suit!

Like I said, basically zip. But it is what it is and that's just the way it is.

That's kind of the bad news. The good news...

The viewer got an EXCELLENT view of the ship. (Phew!)

It's smallish, maybe kind of like some of the first land skimmers with a smallish semi-opaque dome in the first Star Wars movie. The front is this flexible tube, quite reminiscent of the birth tube in one of the Alien flicks where the queen is dropping eggs by the gross. An soon as this animated little guy pops out, it collapses down.

The way the skin of the ship/opening flexed (we would conclude) it appeared to be biological.

How exciting is that?

You got any of those kind details you can share with us?

Your symbol was quite excellent. Thanks for posting the drawing!


[edit on 6-8-2008 by golemina]


reply posted on 6-8-2008 @ 07:37 PM by constantwonder
Originally posted by depetydog
reply to
post by constantwonder



I will not supply the proof, time will...


evidence is all i asked for like i unno current events credible scientific data archealogical artifacts aything that would lend support to your story other than some guys translation of ancient texts which have been interperated in many ways by various scholars from around the globe
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