Akashic 'Hall of records'.

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I agree completey with you. Dan Tanna was the real troll here, he was the one spreading ignorance. In my opinion he lied in both the "Violent encounter" thread and this one. And he does the same thing every time he gets questions he don't like, he gets aggressive and soon after leaves the thread. I can't believe that people don't see the pattern here.

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How can you call Dan the troll here when it was HIS thread.The big problem with people on ATS is,most people just want to be confrontational.

If you don't agree with someone make a post saying it,and then leave the thread for the subject at hand.Don't continually derail the thread with your own arguments against the OP.

What people fail to realize is that Dan had a very specific experience where a lot of things were laid out for him.One of which was that the Fae folk were an evil species who tried to dominate humanity.

Now,knowing this how did you really think he'd respond to people calling them lovable guides and such?Of course he's gonna be mad.He was told otherwise,and in his experience these people worshiping fairies are being manipulated.

Was what Dan experienced real? I don't know,but I didn't feel it was my position to pas judgment on him.I wanted to hear what he had to say,and so did a lot of others.Unfortunately that was wrecked by the naysayers and agitators,just like every other imaginative topic on ATS.



[edit on 9/5/2008 by DocGonzo]

i personally will miss dan's posts i really enjoyed reading about his experiences, his thread was always the first one that i read up on when logging on. very sorry to see him go.

I haven't been in the "woodwork". As I said I have corresponded with Dan publicly (in this thread) and privately via U2U. I also have followed this thread to some degree but never saw a reason to respond so forgive me if it seems I just came out of nowhere to eviscerate him. Which I didn't do.

Mostly this thread was a bit strange because I couldn't tell by his responses if he gathered all the information to give the answers to everyone's questions in one visit or he continued contact past the initial one. He had an answer for almost all questions so he must have asked a ton of them while visiting with these beings.

FYI: Dan is an adult.

He should be able to handle polite criticism about an unbelievable story, or at least expect it. I saw Dans' change in attitude (for the better imo) and applauded him for it early in this thread but he reverted back to being overly sensitive and lashed out at some "mild" criticism early on. It was a surprised and very rude.

If mild criticism of his story or the talk of other peoples experiences that differ from his own unnerve him then maybe it's best he leave. I saw no attacks on Dan throughout (aside from one really dumb one) that would warrant his extreme reaction to just bolt.

This is called a "forum" for a reason and its not a place where you will find everyone accepting your personal otherworldly accounts.

I should know.

- Lee

[edit on 6-9-2008 by lee anoma]

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Ok...I just wanna balance things out here a little. I know Dan had a really intense experience, and in my posts, which I made quite clear, I was trying to say that I was actually worried for him and concerned about these beings who made contact. I don't usually talk about what I do or how I work in public, but would have talked to him privately had he contacted me. I have a LOT fo experience in this kind of work and meditation/spiritutal issues in general, and I was really just trying to put another perspective.

However real the messages were to him, there is a chance that they are false, and deceptive....HE might be the one being lied to. I've seen it happen before, and have had to clean up the mess it causes. It's never happened to me however, because I've been trained to challenge properly...a vital spiritual skill.

Anyway...Dan clearly believes that the Fae are evil and perhaps has been shown SOME instances from history, created by SOME Fae, and to shout about how all Fae are evil is immensely unenlightened. It's a bit like saying all humans are to be punished for the Holocaust. There are other reasons for the Fae to be hidden...because of humans actually...so I think on balance, they came off worst, and are still suffering.

The beings Dan is in touch with can and will show him ANYTHING to assert dominance over him and make him talk for them. Either way, no being has a right to wish the extinction of another race or being just because they *think* they are evil. And Dan's aggressiveness towards me and others was immature and unenlightened. Sorry if this seems like dissing him when he has gone, but I suspect he's reading this and he does have my email address, so if he wants to reply to me he can...I have no problem with that at all.

Cait

Actually I feel as though, either by design or accident, someone was pushing the OP's natural human buttons. Everyone has a certain personality, partly nature, and partly nurture (ie. experiences), and even life-changing events or miracles do not change us from the insight out, or negate our natures. I don't believe anyone can make up the experience he just had. Before I'd read this thread, I noticed his avatar had changed, and I knew right then and there that something wonderful had just happened to him. I don't know if everyone experiences exactly the same dose of "truth" when they experience such a deep spiritual or mystical revelation. Perhaps it depends on our basic understanding, is filtered through our unique consciousness and therefore varies. Perhaps its meant to vary, as we are not being directed to merely give our power away to new "gurus" but to seek the answers ourselves. Perhaps its meant to vary, as so many people are in different stages of learning, they need different safe ports to land in and grow.
If the OP reacted within his normal personality (which I see he did) thats just being human. And we're loved just as we are. The kind of overhaul and instant change of personality expected is not possible, change is slow. I'm not even sure if that change was expected, or if his natural reactions were being counted on in a deliberate attempt to discredit him. For some reason, thats what I'm feeling, but I hope I'm wrong.
His account is wonderful and I really don't see why such a revelation brings out such negativity. I thank him for sharing this, it shines a beautiful pocket of light that inspired me. Also, happy to see you're still human with human foibles. Great thread!

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isn't that why they call it a "star" gate? i've heard that stargates utilize/harness the sun's resources in order to function... please don't ask me how this works... lol

have you heard anything about this, undo???

I was actually following Dan's last message, I found it interesting because I had practiced some energy work before, and crossing over is essential to raise energy. I often do it when exercising. Also energy work is done in psi exercises such as the ball of light. I sought protection as he said first. Of course, though I certainly felt the energy build, I didn't leap out of my body. But I couldn't just pull away from it either. I felt an urge to close my eyes and repeat it, when I was giving up, felt enormous vibrations flowing through my body. But heres the odd part that happened. For some reason when I was still hoping to leap out, I just relaxed into the vibrations and started seeing images of the huge star, our sun. In my minds eyes (as opposed to being out of body) I saw myself floating down beneath the tulmutuous surface. But I felt a strange dizzing, strong vortex pulling at me. Then the words came: Don't go any further! I kind of woke up too fast and hurried down the stairs, anyway my legs weren't working too well.
Is the sun really a stargate to another place? If so, where does the vortex go?
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I would think to another nearby (or not so nearby) star. Like the neurons of the brain. Sure, those are 'physically' connected, but at the molecular level, there's 'space' between the atoms. They're not really 'touching'. So, along with the 'universe is a big brain' theory, 'objects' can probably traverse space & time from star to star like impulses of thought do in our brains.

[edit on 9/6/2008 by Teratoma]

OMG coffee just went out my nose and I about choked to death reading this...........

LEMME answer this guy UNDO.......please???

Hey Adrenochrome..
....if you happen do do a simple search on ATS for stargates.....you will get taken to UNDO's massive thread on the subject...this lady has YEARS of research into the locations of the HOW/WHAT of stargates......she is pretty much the site's AUTHORITY on stargates.........hence her comment and interest......your words to her I am SURE are only the most innocent and pure of intent but it sent me into paroxysms of laughter......
I was not going to make another single post on this thread....
..but in THIS case I just had to jump in as I found it tickled me to the bone.


Im ashamed & embarrassed for this ziggystar poster and the unending depth of ignorance they continue to spew across these boards.....
(I had to say that)....
.........even though I hate to point out the obvious.


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Adrenochrome has participated in the SGAR thread. I think his question to her here may have been covered somewhere in there, but gosh that's a big thread, and since it's on topic here maybe Undo will be able to narrow it down for us.

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ditto!

yes, i'm still in the process of reading undo's massively intriguing volume of work that is "Stargates are Real". i wasn't sure if she was going to touch on this topic or not in it...

and i'm glad i can give someone a good laugh! was the coffee hot? i hope your snorter still sniffs soundly sans smell sensors.. and that's interesting, i happened to be thinking of your avatar on the drive home today - clever design!

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haha lol thanks....
thanks HEAVENS it was cold coffee....

hi guys,,

it seems Dan has found a new home,
i am not sure i can mention the name of the site here on ATS , as i believe there is some ongoing thing with them.

so lets just say the middle word is " LIKE "

snoopyuk

What a load of bol-lox, IMO of course.

This is the first time that I have read anything by Dan other than what he writes on the Survival Forum ...... which incidently he writes from a great knowledge and experience base as many ATS Survival Forum contributors can testify to, some of which have written in this very thread.

As well as corresponding on the Survival Forum with Dan as well as U2U, I and Dan have had many a Survival orientated conversation via private e-mail.

Dan, I am not going to judge you, nor be your executioner. Live well my friend and take care.

regards
Wotan

Hi Dan,

Just one question I am really curious about. you say that you watched your life good and bad on a screen. What angle was this shot from? If this does happen, do I and everybody else for that matter have a camera on our shoulder all our lives and if so where is it situated/pointing at in relation to us?

Regards,

Wes