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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 06:52 AM by ziggystar60
reply to post by Kurokage


I agree completey with you. Dan Tanna was the real troll here, he was the one spreading ignorance. In my opinion he lied in both the "Violent encounter" thread and this one. And he does the same thing every time he gets questions he don't like, he gets aggressive and soon after leaves the thread. I can't believe that people don't see the pattern here.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 12:39 PM by DocGonzo
reply to post by ziggystar60


How can you call Dan the troll here when it was HIS thread.The big problem with people on ATS is,most people just want to be confrontational.

If you don't agree with someone make a post saying it,and then leave the thread for the subject at hand.Don't continually derail the thread with your own arguments against the OP.

What people fail to realize is that Dan had a very specific experience where a lot of things were laid out for him.One of which was that the Fae folk were an evil species who tried to dominate humanity.

Now,knowing this how did you really think he'd respond to people calling them lovable guides and such?Of course he's gonna be mad.He was told otherwise,and in his experience these people worshiping fairies are being manipulated.

Was what Dan experienced real? I don't know,but I didn't feel it was my position to pas judgment on him.I wanted to hear what he had to say,and so did a lot of others.Unfortunately that was wrecked by the naysayers and agitators,just like every other imaginative topic on ATS.



[edit on 9/5/2008 by DocGonzo]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 03:23 AM by lee anoma
Originally posted by undo
the posts on the last 2 pages were like a time reversal. suddenly, people that aren't or weren't terribly happy with dan tanna, come out of the woodwork to criticize him, and this leads backwards to dan tanna saying he's leaving because of attacks that haven't or aren't visible yet, till the next two pages.



I haven't been in the "woodwork". As I said I have corresponded with Dan publicly (in this thread) and privately via U2U. I also have followed this thread to some degree but never saw a reason to respond so forgive me if it seems I just came out of nowhere to eviscerate him. Which I didn't do.

Mostly this thread was a bit strange because I couldn't tell by his responses if he gathered all the information to give the answers to everyone's questions in one visit or he continued contact past the initial one. He had an answer for almost all questions so he must have asked a ton of them while visiting with these beings.

FYI: Dan is an adult.

He should be able to handle polite criticism about an unbelievable story, or at least expect it. I saw Dans' change in attitude (for the better imo) and applauded him for it early in this thread but he reverted back to being overly sensitive and lashed out at some "mild" criticism early on. It was a surprised and very rude.

If mild criticism of his story or the talk of other peoples experiences that differ from his own unnerve him then maybe it's best he leave. I saw no attacks on Dan throughout (aside from one really dumb one) that would warrant his extreme reaction to just bolt.

This is called a "forum" for a reason and its not a place where you will find everyone accepting your personal otherworldly accounts.

I should know.

- Lee

[edit on 6-9-2008 by lee anoma]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 04:00 AM by caitlinfae
reply to post by DocGonzo


Ok...I just wanna balance things out here a little. I know Dan had a really intense experience, and in my posts, which I made quite clear, I was trying to say that I was actually worried for him and concerned about these beings who made contact. I don't usually talk about what I do or how I work in public, but would have talked to him privately had he contacted me. I have a LOT fo experience in this kind of work and meditation/spiritutal issues in general, and I was really just trying to put another perspective.

However real the messages were to him, there is a chance that they are false, and deceptive....HE might be the one being lied to. I've seen it happen before, and have had to clean up the mess it causes. It's never happened to me however, because I've been trained to challenge properly...a vital spiritual skill.

Anyway...Dan clearly believes that the Fae are evil and perhaps has been shown SOME instances from history, created by SOME Fae, and to shout about how all Fae are evil is immensely unenlightened. It's a bit like saying all humans are to be punished for the Holocaust. There are other reasons for the Fae to be hidden...because of humans actually...so I think on balance, they came off worst, and are still suffering.

The beings Dan is in touch with can and will show him ANYTHING to assert dominance over him and make him talk for them. Either way, no being has a right to wish the extinction of another race or being just because they *think* they are evil. And Dan's aggressiveness towards me and others was immature and unenlightened. Sorry if this seems like dissing him when he has gone, but I suspect he's reading this and he does have my email address, so if he wants to reply to me he can...I have no problem with that at all.

Cait


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 11:52 AM by mystiq
Originally posted by h3akalee
reply to post by zorgon


I might have been and still could be being told and shown a lie like you say zorgon and i accept that.

But atleast i have experienced it unlike Dan who woke up one day and decided to make it all up.

I can accept the fact that i might be nut's i can take constructive critisism but guess what Dan can not ! And that tell's me something.

That's the difference.

Take care.

Regards
Lee







[edit on 3-9-2008 by h3akalee]



Actually I feel as though, either by design or accident, someone was pushing the OP's natural human buttons. Everyone has a certain personality, partly nature, and partly nurture (ie. experiences), and even life-changing events or miracles do not change us from the insight out, or negate our natures. I don't believe anyone can make up the experience he just had. Before I'd read this thread, I noticed his avatar had changed, and I knew right then and there that something wonderful had just happened to him. I don't know if everyone experiences exactly the same dose of "truth" when they experience such a deep spiritual or mystical revelation. Perhaps it depends on our basic understanding, is filtered through our unique consciousness and therefore varies. Perhaps its meant to vary, as we are not being directed to merely give our power away to new "gurus" but to seek the answers ourselves. Perhaps its meant to vary, as so many people are in different stages of learning, they need different safe ports to land in and grow.
If the OP reacted within his normal personality (which I see he did) thats just being human. And we're loved just as we are. The kind of overhaul and instant change of personality expected is not possible, change is slow. I'm not even sure if that change was expected, or if his natural reactions were being counted on in a deliberate attempt to discredit him. For some reason, thats what I'm feeling, but I hope I'm wrong.
His account is wonderful and I really don't see why such a revelation brings out such negativity. I thank him for sharing this, it shines a beautiful pocket of light that inspired me. Also, happy to see you're still human with human foibles. Great thread!

[edit on 6-9-2008 by mystiq]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 04:11 PM by Teratoma
reply to post by theRiverGoddess


Adrenochrome has participated in the SGAR thread. I think his question to her here may have been covered somewhere in there, but gosh that's a big thread, and since it's on topic here maybe Undo will be able to narrow it down for us.

[edit on 9/6/2008 by Teratoma]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 04:51 PM by adrenochrome
reply to post by Teratoma


ditto!

yes, i'm still in the process of reading undo's massively intriguing volume of work that is "Stargates are Real". i wasn't sure if she was going to touch on this topic or not in it...

and i'm glad i can give someone a good laugh! was the coffee hot? i hope your snorter still sniffs soundly sans smell sensors.. and that's interesting, i happened to be thinking of your avatar on the drive home today - clever design!

[edit on 6-9-2008 by adrenochrome]


reply posted on 29-6-2010 @ 12:31 PM by muttish
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this post is probably going to piss off some people. and i apologize before i even say anything...it might actually be that bad.

*cue bitter resentment*

whats the f#cking deal?!?

why the f#ck does sh#t like this never happen in my life?

im probably the only person in new york city that i know that is aware of anything besides this 3 dimensional piece of sh#t we call reality.

and what do i get...NOTHING.

i spend HOURS.....researching and studying and slaving over computers and papers and documents, wanting and begging and asking and asking...AND FU#KING ASKING... trying to find out whats out there...and inside.

and WHAT THE F#CK DO I GET?!?!?!

NOT A G#DD#MN THING!

no out of body, no psychic phenomena no metaphysical experience.

JUST A WHOLE LOT OF F#CKING BLACK BEHIND THE LIDS.

personally i am convinced that even perfect beings can play favorites. and i hate to be immature and pissed the f#ck off but this thread really hit a sore spot for me.

envy doesnt even begin to....nevermind...its just a severe understatement to how i feel right now.

and now that it is confirmed that despite ALL of my efforts -just like everything else in my life- they will amount to NOTHING.

i see why people can curse god then wrap their mouths around a double barrel shot gun.

then again this is coming from a 19 year old, black girl from the city who...clearly by cosmic standards...DOES NOT QUALIFY.

f#ck it all to hell...if there is one.

and with that, i will politely excuse myself....

i have a date with a 30 pack of swiss razorblades and an ice bath.

thanx for listening...

<3

~Mutt

[edit on 29-6-2010 by muttish]
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