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Originally posted by eric52081
I don't believe in money reparations for slavery but, for the American Indians I say they deserve it. We killed most of their ancestors and stole their land. And they complain less than the African Americans. That right there really tells me something about African Americans. It says that no matter what we do they will never be happy. Besides we all ready gave the African Americans American citizenship. Many people in this world would give an arm and a leg just to get that. They could have it worse, they could be in Africa with AIDS and barley able to find water. They should thank the United States that we brought them over here. I just get tired of hearing the complaining.
Originally posted by Becker44
This just in concerning the history of Slaves in the U.S.
We freed them as well.
Becker
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
By God he best not forget the women then. First deed he can do for us id make our pay equal to a man's. Second deed, make up for not allowing us to vote until 1920. I won't hold my breath.
[edit on 1-8-2008 by hotbakedtater]
Originally posted by Quazga
reply to post by eric52081
Do people just not get this?
[edit on 1-8-2008 by Quazga]
Originally posted by alienj
Blacks were taken from there country and shipped to work as slaves,
their country, their homeland, their ancestral way of life was not obliterated.
I do not believe in reparations to blacks,
that is the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard. I will not be liable for something one of my ancestor may or may not have been a part of.
Blacks can still go back to Africa and still relive and take part of their heritage
but wait...most don't want too because what they have here is ten thousand times better. Yes its sad, no its horrible that a wonderful opportunity had to present itself thru slavery
but none the less, blacks of African decent now have a wonderful chance because of a horrible crime.
Now this is way I separate black and natives. I am a native American, my ancestral home is gone, my tribes fortune(coal rich land) is now at this moment being blundered by an American company and subsidized by the American government.
My ancestral way of life is on the brink and most tribes have to resort to Casinos and alcohol as a way of trying to make a viable life for the tribes that did get land. Not all tribes were given land, instead the government said , "Camp out here for now" then after awhile it was taken away. If you really want to do your homework, try reading about the numerous treaties given to different tribes, start with the 5 civilized tribes whose land was bribed and bought with liquor, then after they signed a treaty they couldn't read then another act was enforced, the removal act, which forced them on the trail of tears. Not only that, many of the treaties signed by natives where never upheld by the goverment making the treaties null. That is the premise that some tribes are using to bail on the Union(which is very legal)
I am not advocating reparations for the natives,
and pls don't throw our health care system up in my face, our health care system can be compared to what Canada has, you could face a 2 year wait after having cancer diagnosed. My brother has a life threatening disease which could be treated with a surgery but they wont do it until after the disease disabilities him. So pls don't say anything about the health care. I just believe that the government should go back and make sure that all treaties were legal(not signed in duress) and that they were adhered too. I Know for a fact having my great great grandfather that signed a treaty in duress. He was taken in the woods and forced to sign and after he signed he was then shot, he did not trust white men and had 3 elders in the tribe follow who then vouched for what they saw but because of the signed deed Jackson and his croonies ran my elders off their land only to set up one the largest coal mining operations in the US
the only African Americans
Did you know Native Americans also owned African Slaves?
Originally posted by Dronetek
Originally posted by Quazga
reply to post by eric52081
Do people just not get this?
[edit on 1-8-2008 by Quazga]
Its you who doesn't get it. You have this vindictive attitude toward white people, because of their skin color. Their ancestor, history and involvement with slavery mean nothing to you. To you White=not right.
Like I said, you need to stop wagging your finger and took a personal inventory.
Originally posted by Dronetek
reply to post by Quazga
the only African Americans
Out of curiosity, what do you call white people who are from Africa?
Did you know Native Americans also owned African Slaves?
As did pretty much every single culture on the planet. Especially in the Americas. So, that begs the question on why your so laser focused on "white people". ?
What are you talking about? I'm white.
I don't have a vindictive attitude toward anyone except those who seem to act like inhumanity is all well and good. I will wag my finger at inhumanity forever. I don't care what race it is.
Especially when I hear people who are completley ignorant of history speaking as if they had some sort of perspective on the matter.
European African Americans.
Just because they went down and colonized Africa doesn't make them African. They are Afrikanners.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
But i've seen what SOME white people CAN STILL DO to black people, first hand.
I still see it quite frequently.
It exists.
Originally posted by Quazga
Look, I never said anything about what whites owe black folk. I said something about what AMERICA owes the descendants of African Slaves.
I said something about what AMERICA owes the descendants of African Slaves