Man decapitates passenger aboard Greyhound bus in Manitoba, page 1

Man decapitates passenger aboard Greyhound bus in Manitoba

CBC News

A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, a witness said Thursday.

Police officers spent the night examining a Greyhound bus where a passenger was reportedly stabbed and decapitated late Wednesday. (John Woods/Canadian Press)The RCMP would not confirm the report, only saying that a homicide took place west of Portage la Prairie late Wednesday on a bus driving along the Trans-Canada Highway.

About 37 passengers and a driver were aboard the bus en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton, according to a Greyhound spokesperson.

The RCMP say a suspect, whose identity has not been released, was arrested without incident early Thursday morning.

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Wow! That's pretty gruesome!


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[edit on 1-8-2008 by asala]

reply to post by CO Vet

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Well the bus came from Edmonton and was en route to Winnipeg, so I can only guess which Canadian heritage they come from...

I used to live in Edmonton and everything about Greyhound is sketchy up there. The Edmonton Greyhound station is a cesspool of sketchy people, and it actually makes me quite angry that the powers that be just allow drunks and drug addicts to loiter around that building, weirding out all of the normal people and making them uncomfortable.

And I'm not trying to pass judgment as I know people fall on bad times, but I think it's ridiculous that these drunks and drug addicts just loiter around there intimidating people, and the only people who speak up against them are the middle eastern taxi cab drivers who are sick of having drunk natives shout racial slurs at them.

The security guards down there, with their grade 10 education (or so it seems) appears to be more afraid of them then anyone else! And the buses are no different. I've been on the Edmonton-Winnipeg Greyhound bus route, and there's ALWAYS a problem with idiot young people bringing booze onto the bus and getting rowdy. This crap has to stop! I wonder how my passive, do-nothing Canadian brothers and sisters will react to this piece of news, but I for one won't be stepping on a Greyhound bus (or dog) anytime soon.

Christ what is wrong with people This is something you'd hear about in Baghdad on CNN or something, not Manitoba, Canada...ok I'm done my rant.

reply to post by matth

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So you're saying you think he's Canadian Indian heritage. Seeing as they're the only truly native Canadians.

The thing is that it did happen in Canada and not Baghdad. And it sounds like some are more concerned with controlling people bringing knives onboard Greyhound buses after this incident. Now, what do you think that would actually accomplish, and how would it be implemented, especially with nonmetallic ceramic or plastic knives?

CNN

The story is also reported here on CNN. There a video aswell with a witness claiming the attacker just walked to the front of the bus with the head in his hand, looked at the witnesses through the bus windows and just dropped the head on the floor.

Some sick individuals around.

Originally posted by CO Vet
reply to post by matth

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So you're saying you think he's Canadian Indian heritage. Seeing as they're the only truly native Canadians.

I'm not going to speculate on which "race" the person came from until more official details are released, but I will say that a "true Native Canadian", in my opinion, is anyone born here in Canada. As far as I'm concerned, Canadian Indians are no more "native Canadian" than I am, or vice versa, no matter what color the skin is.

The ancestors of Canadian Indians came from Asia, my ancestors came from Europe. But in the end we were all born in Canada. Therefore we are all truly native Canadians.

Originally posted by CO Vet
The thing is that it did happen in Canada and not Baghdad. And it sounds like some are more concerned with controlling people bringing knives onboard Greyhound buses after this incident. Now, what do you think that would actually accomplish, and how would it be implemented, especially with nonmetallic ceramic or plastic knives?

As far as I'm concerned, Greyhound buses are unsafe and need to be made safe. Any mode of public mass transportation should be secure, and buses are not. I'm not saying that Greyhound bus depots need the same screening procedures as an an international airport, however I do think that a simple metal detector with an armed security guard would be in order.

And I know that it could open a Pandora's Box as it pertains to our privacy, but the fact of the matter is that buses need to be more safe and secure, and the fact that Greyhound won't invest some money into more security screening procedures just shows how little they care about their customers...and who is your average Greyhound bus rider? People with low income! Wow, that's a surprise, a major corporation not giving a crap about the poor...again!

reply to post by salchanra

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Don't think many people will take on a cold-faced killer with a hunting knife. Especially after seeing what they did (not) do to help that guy in Hartford, Connecticut hit by a car and left in the road.

reply to post by matth

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OK. So if the Canadian government start processing people into the bus terminals, you'll be totally behind it?

[edit on 7/31/08 by CO Vet]

reply to post by salchanra

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No one can predict what they would do in a situation like that. When is the last time you were on a bus, when the person behind you decided it would be fun to stab the passenger next to him for no reason over and over again? Probably never. Walter Cannon describes our reactions to times like these with the fight or flight response.

reply to post by matth

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imagine you were on that bus trip, walking through the terminal thinking about how these other individuals should either be locked up or thrown out into the streets because they make you feel "uncomfortable" (your own whiney word), cursing under your breath about how they are less human than you because they use drugs or were raised by booze, and then REALLY getting annoyed when you see a few teenagers talking louder than you would, and holding a few cans of beer for the long ride.

Feeling insecure, you start to think about how you wish there were armed seccurity to keep in line all of these people, these Teenagers and Mendicants making Normal People like YOU feel Uncomfortable....

you are waiting at the stop, maybe having a cigarette (maybe not, because im sure smokers are evil, inconsiderate and should be banned from society?) and you turn to this guy, ths normal calm seeming guy beside you, doesnt seem dangerous, seems like someone you could chat with without confronting some Demon Possessed Teenager. you mention how they shouldnt let these young punks get on the bus and cause a ruckus? or howthere should be cops that should kick everyone out of the terminal if they appear to possibly be intoxicated or not well off regardless of whether you know if they are waiting for a bus or not? y'kno, form a brief comeraderie with the guy, someone to complain with, be smug with, make your self feel a little more secure.

Six stops later, this MF'er's got a head in his had and youve got the Sh*t in your pants.

You sound like you've lead a pretty boring life if you are concerned about some rowdy teenagers or loiterers. My point is, you (well, not just you there are plenty out there) have been so concerned with people who live their lives differently than you do and it shows that your mind has been so narrowed by self-righteousness and holding that the world should be nice, bland, and well-mannered otherwise your sensitive self will feel Uncomfortable.

OK Chief.

about not stepping on a greyhound bus anytime soon, do you suspect Greyhound BUsses cause mind control (or maybe they are the Culprit behind the Rapid Decay of Society By Boisterous Youth and Homicidal Maniacs)? do you not think that this could happen on the street? in a restaurant?? at your church??? people are unpredicable, maybe one of those homeless people would have been pleasant or interesting to talk to if you tried ( i have met many!) or maybe one of those teens wouldve helped you out if he happened to be on the same fateful busride as you (clearly he wasnt in real life..) people will surprise you.

Now you want armed guards and metal detectors at greyhound terminals? What happens if that crazy guy does this on your local bus, armed guards there too? how about at the school (actually you sound like youd be all for that one) or at your library (maybe after the guards start there youd feel secure enough to go and read about society and open your life to the possibility of it including Fun and Freedom)?
We as a society shouldnt be crying for the Government or the Police put on us a plastic "Special Guy" Helmet for our Protection, when we go out in the big scary Public. we might see a poster for a Popsicle and start bashing our heads against the wall or fall down and start screeching if someone touches our elbow right? FOr our own protection right?

meh sorry for the tangent folks.

reply to post by CO Vet

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If you're asking if I would be totally behind proper screening of bus passengers at bus depots, then yes, I would be. Just as I am totally behind screening at airports before people get on airplanes.

I never said the government would have to be behind this. It would be as simple as placing metal detectors to screen passengers for weapons. No different than the metal detectors that screen people when they enter Madison Square Garden for a concert, no different than the detectors we go through at airports, and no different than the detectors that some high school students go through in the United States. This could simply be put in place by Greyhound and the other bus companies, and enforced by the government to make sure that they legally must do so. Beyond that, no government control has to be anywhere in this situation.

Total government control does not work, but neither does complete anarchy free of any regulations or safety procedures.

reply to post by kidney thief

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Thanks for putting all of those words in my mouth. Greyhound mind control? Buddy come on. I am nothing like how you described me, and you don't know me, so don't post on here pretending that you do.

I wasn't talking about people who sneak beer on a bus. I'm talking about the babbling drunken idiots who wander around the bus stations shouting and swearing and being disruptive. They make EVERYONE there uncomfortable, not just me. I am a marijuana advocate and really don't care about people who are going to keep to themselves. I am obviously talking about a different type of person.

There's too much bullcrap in your post to respond to, and to be honest the reason I never post here is because of idiots like you who will just read what they want to in certain posts, and not take it in the context it was posted under.

The fact is that a random person got stabbed multiple times and had his head cut off last night on a Greyhound, and a simple metal detector would of been able to find that knife and save the guy's life. That's the point I was trying to make, and anyone who thinks that nothing should be done after something like this happened is 100% ignorant.

And again, just for the close-minded people out there who might be reading this, I did not mean my previous comments towards "teenagers", or people who are going to have a couple of beers or are a little bit high of marijuana before they get on a bus and are going to mind their own business. My comments were directed towards the drunken/drug riddled idiots who stammer around making women feel uncomfortable with their comments, or who beg people for change and get hostile when they're told no, or who shout racial slurs at cab drivers because they are drunk or messed up on meth. And of course, it was directed at the people WHO BRING KNIFES ON A BUS AND CUT ANOTHER MAN'S HEAD OFF. I can't even believe I'm having this debate.

Originally posted by matth
reply to post by CO Vet

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If you're asking if I would be totally behind proper screening of bus passengers at bus depots, then yes, I would be. Just as I am totally behind screening at airports before people get on airplanes.

I never said the government would have to be behind this. It would be as simple as placing metal detectors to screen passengers for weapons. No different than the metal detectors that screen people when they enter Madison Square Garden for a concert, no different than the detectors we go through at airports, and no different than the detectors that some high school students go through in the United States. This could simply be put in place by Greyhound and the other bus companies, and enforced by the government to make sure that they legally must do so. Beyond that, no government control has to be anywhere in this situation.

Total government control does not work, but neither does complete anarchy free of any regulations or safety procedures.

OK. So you'd trust the bus lines to hire a company to provide security for the terminals, with government oversight?

Originally posted by matth
The security guards down there, with their grade 10 education (or so it seems) appears to be more afraid of them then anyone else!

[edit on 7/31/08 by CO Vet]

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