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Topic started on 30-7-2008 @ 08:43 PM by Hollywood11
Choosing the path of defending oneself can be correct

Some history about Chen family Taijiquan-
First it must be made clear that Taijiquan was developed by a retired soldier, a fighter who had knowledge of martial arts as well as Chinese medicinal and cultivational practices. It was primarily developed as a martial art practice with the intention of making the best use of the human body's cultivational facility while practicing. It originally was not developed with the idea of giving old people a method of moving slowly in the morning to alleviate arthritis although it can be used that way.

Taiji quan is over 300 years old as a system and takes its roots from further back. the system was developed in northern central China by a retired general (or some sort of soldier official) Named Chen Wang Ting, who had a great and broad martial arts skill. He Mixed his vast skill with ancient Daoist and Buddhist breathing and meditation methods as well as traditional medicinal theory and Qi gong.


Chen Wangting, Ninth Generation member of the Chen Family, served as a professional soldier for the Ming Dynasty fighting rebel forces. He was exposed to a variety of battlefield martial arts, which were more important militarily before the gun appeared on the battlefield. Despite his background and perseverance, in 1644, Chen ended up on the losing side. Rebel forces began to gain an upper hand, and soon thereafter the Ming Dynasty fell. It is then that Chen Wangting likely retreated to Chen Village and developed the comprehensive martial art and internal training system we now call Chen Style Taijiquan.


A third branch was headed up by another fourteenth generation member of the Chen family named Chen Youheng. Chen Youheng developed what many see as the first New Frame of the style. This New Frame was not a watering down of Chen style by any stretch of the imagination. Instead, it was viewed as an even more martial rendering of the style adapting to the ever changing face of military hand-to-hand combat. This approach was exemplified by his offspring, Chen Jishen and Chen Zhongshen who were recognized as warriors who successfully stood up to the Taiping rebels during the reign of the Emperor Hsien Feng. Some accounts credit Chen Zhongshen specifically with adding further developments of a "Big Style" that emphasized a martial prowess, and made the style more practical and adaptable to battlefield considerations.


Henan and its neighboring North China provinces of Hebei, Shand ong, and Shanxi were home to a strong martial tradition, for a variety of historical and social reasons. First, they lay in the path of repeated waves of barbarian invasions from the north, the latest of which ruled from Beijing as the Manchu, or Qing (Ching), dynasty. Second, the area was riven by clan and sectarian rivalries which often turned violent. Third, the region was rife with banditry and crime. Barriers to class mobility and the practices of polygamy and female infanticide had created a huge surplus of destitute, single, and alienated young men; to many of them, the attractions of a swashbuckling life of crime and pillage proved irresistible.

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Chen Fa Ke-

(1887-1957), seventeenth generation descendant of Chen clan, famous Chen style Taijiquan master, Chen Chan Xing's Great grandson. Chen became famous in his hometown for victories in lei tai (free fighting) competitions held in the county and for defeating opponents armed with spear and sabre while Chen stood barehanded(after he rejected the post offered to him by Han Fuju, local warlord). In 1929 , through Chen Zhaopi's recommendation , Chen Fa Ke left Chenjiagou and went to Beiping (today's Beijing) to teach Taijiquan . Very modest, used to say about himself "No Good" and for this reason became known as "Chen No Good". Many times challenged by martial arts practioners (including Bagua and Chinese wrestling experts) , defeated them in great style, without hurting anybody


A site with photos of Chen Fa Ke, the last great Chen style master, and clips of his grandson-
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Tian Xuchen, student of Chen Fa Ke I believe, demonstates first Taijiquan routine
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Lei Mu Ni demonstrates the 2nd Taijiquan routine, Cannon fist
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Feng Zhiqiang, 2nd routine cannot fist
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Chen Zhoukui, Son of Chen Fa Ke
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Article about Chen Zhou Kui, son of Chen Fa Ke
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Grandmaster Ma Hong demonstrating New Frame 1st road routine. "The best xinjia(new frame form) player in the world"
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More Ma Hong
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Grandmaster Ma Hong applications
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The whole body is connected as one solid unit, but also moves like a worm or whip at the same time
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Old Frame 1st road routine demonstrated by Zhu Tian Cai
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Zhu Tian Cai demonstrating more
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Zhu Tina Cai Fa Jin set
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Chen Zheng Lei demonstration
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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 08:44 PM by Hollywood11
Short Taijiquan clip
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form video-
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Cannon fists. The power hits and moves fast like a cannon, and sometimes it's really cool because it moves like a wrapped chinese fire cracker--
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Chen Xiaoxing demonstrates cannons
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Chen Xiaowang demonstares Old Frame 2nd road routine, Cannon Fist.
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Chen Bing demonstrating cannon fists
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Chen Yu demonstates a little bit of New Frame 2nd routine
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Weapons

Broad sword
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Double Broadswords
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Example of Long Pole shaking
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Spear
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Example of Halberd
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Straight sword
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Double straight sword
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Little kid doing Long Broadsword
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Chen Xiaowang practicing Weapons-
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Taijiquan application clips

Some joint seizing and wrestling throwing applications
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I like the one legged standing in this clip, the man's waist and legs really are powerfully and strongly rooted into the ground. To be like a statue, or building, or bridge. Stable and rooted to the ground with straight up and down upright posture, and can never be made to lean over, tip over, or collapse. But also able to rotate and turn like a a wheel or ball in any direction flexibly and relaxed. To be able to remain relaxed and unaffected while being pushed, if one side of the body is attacked the other side of the body is not even affected and remains relaxed. He can't be moved back, his leg can't be lifted or sweeped etc.
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This Taiji video is really cool. Well, it's really boring for the first 5:00 minutes becasue it's just talking in chinese, so just ignore that and just let it fully load up. But at the 5:00 minute mark it shows something pretty cool. It shows 3 people pushing against a Taijiquan martial artist all being thrown down backwards at the same time. It makes no difference how hard someone pushes, how big they are, how strong, or where someone pushes or attacks like the legs, chest, waist, back, it doesn't matter. A Taijiquan martial artist cannot be moved or pushed backwards and can always return the force back to the opponent. Many people do not believe it is possible unless they see it in person for themselves 5:00 to 5:20
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Demo of some Push Hands, very cool, a women is throwing around a man. At around 1:15 is really cool
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You have to be able to intercept someone's strike and put your structure down on it to take their shoulder down, out, and forward, and then send them flying back. Covering up your head and face or trying to go toe to toe probably isn't smart and is vulnerable in reality-
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Qinna joint locking. Again, you have to be able to intercept and catch someone's strike if they try to hit you. You have to be able to touch somon'es arm and instantly they go down to the ground or their knees buckle. You have to be able to catch a punch and instantly take their shoulder out of joint or send them flying.
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Energy, short shaking power with any part of the body in any direction. Though humans can never gain shaking power like an animal like a mule or dog, it can still be quite violent
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fighting technique demos--
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More fighting techniques
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Push Hands training
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Taiji Push hands and wrestling training as a competition. To throw the opponent either down to the ground, or flying off the platform.
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Tai Chi tricks
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Throwing applications
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fighting applications even in old age
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Some huge guy pushing against aTaijiquan practitioner
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knife vs. knife
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and longer Documentaries-
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As well as-
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