Originally posted by InSanE1
After all, during high school they are still teenagers. They should be allowed to enjoy those freedoms while they still can.

Uhmm...... highschoolers living off of mommy and daddy deserve no freedoms!! They need to be taught cause and effect. You act like a punk, you should be treated like a punk.

Freedom comes to those who are responsible for taking care of their own life and accepting responsibility.

That's the problem w/ society is we are turning out a bunch of punks who feel entitled just because they are alive.

Take a ride down E55th in Cleveland after school lets out at South High.
They need 3 cop cars on the street to keep the peace.
Thug life baggies is rampant. I don't want to see anyones underwear. Suit them up if they come in in colors or baggies.

I work with kids. We are just a bit off topic here because what I'm about to say is not actually relevant to using jumpsuits as punishment, but ...

A lot of kids who have to wear uniforms come out WAY better off because the uniforms eliminate social and economic class distinctions and keep all the lower income kids from getting picked on because they can't afford Nikes or South Pole or whatever the latest $100 a pop item of clothing is. I have personally met teenagers who were ashamed - or afraid - to go to school because they didn't have the "right" clothes. Now THAT is BS in my book.

Sure, freedom of clothing (that's not in the constitution, is it?) allows the rich kids to show off and be even more obnoxious than most of them normally are, and allows the weird nonconformist kids to be even weirder, but I don't necessarily think either is a good thing.

No, kids don't get paid for going to school, at least not directly. But let me remind you that MY property tax dollars pay for YOUR kids to go to school (I don't have any kids) and I would like to see them held to some standard of accountability. And school is not intended to prepare you for life, it is intended to prepare you for WORK. Approx. eight hours a day you have to go there, follow someone else's rules, do what someone else thinks you should be doing, do things you don't WANT to do, and try to stay out of trouble. Doesn't that sound like WORK?

It's 7 or 8 hours a day, five days a week, just like a job. What's wrong with asking them to adhere to a dress code during that time? They still have their 'freedom of attire' the rest of the time, just like all us working stiffs.

Well the public schools is the best place to start getting the new generations used to what it will be like to be in concentration camps when the times comes and the nations population has to be dealt with under the new homegrown terrorism bill that is waiting in congress to be passed.

Welcome to fascist America.

Originally posted by marg6043
Well the public schools is the best place to start getting the new generations used to what it will be like to be in concentration camps when the times comes and the nations population has to be dealt with under the new homegrown terrorism bill that is waiting in congress to be passed.

Welcome to fascist America.

While I don't completely disagree w/ this statement, I don't think the issue is the dress code (at least not the issue we should be so upset with).

It is the socialist idealogy that is being pumped into our kids that we should be more concerned with.

Dress code is hardly deserving of our time when what they are teaching them is that we are property of our federal gov't and how to be nice little slaves. What the kids are told to put on their bodies (especially since it is not like it will be permenantly adorned onto their bodies such as a chip or tattoo of some sort) is hardly as important as what they are putting in their heads.

Originally posted by marg6043

I was a teacher for 9 years, in America we have one of the worst educational systems around.

No doubt about this!!

I am not 100% for the idea of dressing them in prison uniforms, but with what they are teaching them, the parents accepting and being apathetic about the teachings, hell, why not get 'em used to it.

If ya don't like it, pull your kids out and educate them yourself. My kids attend school, however, I teach them to think about what they are being taught. I mainly have them in there for things such as math that I just am not too bright in.

Once they learn basics, they will be back at home so that I can teach them what they REALLY need to know in life.

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O yeah besides that they even do that during lunch time when students head to the cafeteria. Make sure they have their ID or they won't be able to go eat.

If school systems would Pay teachers a fair salary, attract good teachers that are more than just glorified babysitters, teachers that are allowed to
teach and not be a slave to the administration and the parents;

Perhaps there would be a respect for education. The kids might even be
interested in learning something.

Instead teachers are paid less than a garbage man. What do you expect?
Slavish obedience to teachers that don't really want to be there and an administration that is usually drunk with power and loves to make up silly rules rather than educate.

I used to be a teacher. I saw what was going on and wanted no part of a system that is corrupt, dysfunctional and ultimately destructive to the students they are supposed to prepare for life in society.

Is it any wonder they want to dress unruly students in prison garb. They are basically prisoners of a stupid system anyway.

If I had kids I would rather homeschool them and never let them even close to a public school; unless I lived in Chevy Chase, the Hamptons or Scottsdale, Vail or Aspen.






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