New asian tanks

I got these info. from another forum. So they might not be accurate, especially with the numbers with s.korea.




I also have links to the new tanks.

www.globalsecurity.org... (south korea)

www.globalsecurity.org... (japan)

Does anyone know more about these tanks?

everything from japan is gettin smaller, i tell ya.

they seem to fire small shells for a MBT

Huh, 120mm same as everyone else is using?

looks pretty lame, seems to slightly mimic the appearance the M1 Abram tank (made by the USA. What a beautiful hulking mass of fighting power!)

ANd if you know anything about japanese tech, well, nice computers, but they couldnt make an action figure that would last no longer then 5 seconds out the box

lol cuase they are smart and technologically advanced. For example they had plasma T.V.'s way before us, and a lot more things they made first and used before anyone else. The best electronics are from Japan. Anyway back to the tanks. Pretty cool tanks, and they look nice

Looks very similar to an M1 Abrams.

I must say, 70km/h is fast for a 60 ton metal monster.
Looking at the specs it seems at least up to modern MBT's.

T-90's overpower them anyway.

In what way exactly? The two tanks are faster than the T90s but granted the T90 has a larger caliber cannon. I was just wondering on what you base your one line assertion.

Thye are better amored, more powerful, and more reliable.
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The T-90S armament includes one 125mm 2A46M smoothbore gun, stabilised in two axes and fitted with a thermal sleeve. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. The gun can fire a variety of ammunition including APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot), HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank), HE-FRAG (High Explosive Fragmentation) as well as shrapnel projectiles with time fuzes.

The T-90S gun can also fire the 9M119 Refleks (NATO designation AT-11 Sniper) anti-tank guided missile system. The range of the missile is 100m to 4,000m and takes 11.7 sec to reach maximum range. The system is intended to engage tanks fitted with ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) as well as low-flying air targets such as helicopters, at a range of up to 5km. The missile system fires either the 9M119 or 9M119M missiles which have semi-automatic laser beamriding guidance and a hollow charge warhead. Missile weight is 23.4kg. The guns automatic loader will feed both ordnance and missiles.

Also fitted is a coaxial 7.62mm PKT machine gun and a 12.7mm air defence machine gun. A 5.45mm AKS-74 assault rifle is carried on a storage rack.

SELF-PROTECTION

The T-90 tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour (ERA).

The T-90 is fitted with the Shtora-1 defensive aids suite which is produced by Electronintorg of Russia. This system includes infrared jammer, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerised control system.

It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

Looks soft, and too pretty to fight with. Like they will every really find out how it works in battle.

LOL, thats funny, can you cite any battle in the last 59 years where russian T-series MBT's have fought western MBT's and prevailed? Please provide link to information if you answer this question in the affirmative.

t-90's Blow through modern Abrams like there paper and Abram shell do little to T-90's.

Theoretically or in practice? I dont remember a major Abrams V T90 engagement. And what exactly blows through the Abrams like paper, which shells that is? And which Abrams shells do little to t90s?

Im not saying the Abrams suck.
Oh and in ww2 the panzers just killed U.S. Abrams and T models killed the panzers. So whos better???

Neither. Why? Because the Abrams did not exist in World War 2. Did you mean to refer to the Sherman?

The better tank is ultimately the Panzer because the T34s just beat them out of sheer numerical advantage.

Agreed. No one wanted to fight the Panthers or the Tiger I tanks.

The kill to loss ratio for the Allies was very high. (even the mighty T-34) The Shermans were no match for the German Armor. (the KR for the Shermans was 3-1, German advantage)The Allies beat the German armor by making more than tanks than the Germans could defeat. While the Germans could not replace their own tanks and crews fast enough to compete.

Actually the new russian tanks (like t-90) are made for ATGM defense - for example shtora system, but these advanced antimisile defenses will not help them when facing western MBTs like Abrams or Challenger. The American tanks are manufactured for TANK VS TANK combat, because of their air superiority. So Russians have better anti missile defenses but their armor is inferior to the western tanks when firing sabot against it for example.

Im always amazed by these kinds of comments. you sound so sure of your self as if you have a "big book of armor" some where with all the 'facts'

Care to share the source with us?