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reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 10:43 AM by earthman4
Originally posted by robertfenix
this is a hoax or at least 90% dis-info.

First Clark is a CIA spook.

Second there is no 27" CRT on the shuttle, anywhere in the shuttle.

Third neither deck inside the crew compartment has a ceiling height of 8 to 9 feet. The maximum floor to deck height is near the exit lock used for EVA and its a little under 7 feet.

Forth, the tethered EVA astronauts would be communicating by radio, thus an alien standing in the shuttle bay would also have a radio (same type) to communicate with them. No telepathy allowed due to the radiation shielding in the space suit.

Alien craft is not docked with shuttle, therefore the alien would need some means of flight to transfer between its craft and the shuttle which has a velocity of something like 23,000 miles an hour.

There is no "air" in space, therefore the alien would need some type of breathing device. Also the lack of air as a medium to propagate sound wave, would also mean the alien could not be having a free air discussion and therefore as stated above must be using a radio communication device.

And conversely the crew decks in the orbiter are very oxygen rich quite the opposite from free space outside, thus the alien would need a different breathing device inside the shuttle crew compartment.

The shuttle bay is probably the worst location to have an impromptu chat with an alien, being constructed of what is essentially styrofoam and tinfoil.

The orbiters are not like normal airplanes, they are more like flying papermache gliders it does not take much to punch a hole in its skin.

Radiation sheilding stops telepathic messages?


reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 10:43 AM by rocksarerocks
Nothing says it better than bad astronomy.
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Apollo astronauts were heroes. That is very clear to me and should be to everyone; they took an incredible risk to explore and further the knowledge of mankind.

However, that does not give them a "get out of reality free" card.

Ed Mitchell walked on the Moon for the Apollo 14 mission. OK, got that? He walked on the Moon. I have no issue with that.

However, he also believes aliens exist. That’s fine too; in fact, while wouldn’t use the word "believe", I strongly suspect there are aliens elsewhere in the Universe as well. Where Mitchell and I part ways is that he thinks that the aliens are and have been coming here, the government knows, and has been covering it up for decades.

Thing is, his feelings on this have been pretty clear for a while now. But he recently stated them on the radio, which has led to wide reporting on the topic, like say here. There are a zillion other sources if you care (roughly the same number of emails I’ve gotten on this topic).

OK, yes, an Apollo Moonwalker thinks greys are coming here and probing us or whatever. Fine. He can believe what he wants. I think he’s wrong, but he has the right to believe that.

Two points on this. First, of course, the UFO folks will go ballistic over this, because, after all, Mitchell was an astronaut and walked on the Moon. But then, see my "get out of reality card" comment above. Also, this is simply argument from authority, which is bad logic. It doesn’t matter who believes in aliens. What matters is — hello! — evidence.

Show me the clear pictures. She me to nonterrestrial-isotope-laden artifacts. Show me a frakkin’ flying saucer sitting on the White House lawn.

Show me anything other than blurry pictures and videos, eyewitness testimony, and black-out government documents. I want evidence.

The second point is Mitchell’s history. He has long been an advocate for what can be called at best fringe science, starting with his tests of psychic powers on that same lunar flight. That’s fine — in fact I support things like that, if done rigorously — but clearly in my opinion he goes way too far. Government coverups of actual aliens? Really? Where’s the proof of that? The evidence is always circumstantial, and that makes me suspicious indeed. We have governments that cannot coverup a simple break in, a tryst in the White House, or trade deals between Iran and the contras. Those are cakewalks compared to the massive conspiracy theorized by the UFO crowd.

My point is not to make an ad hominem attack Mitchell’s credibility; he is a nice man and a gentleman. I met him and he was very kind to me, and he told me he literally kicked Bart Sibrel out of his house, which makes my heart sing.

No, my point is that I don’t really see why this is suddenly news. He’s been talking fringe science for decades.

So I want to be very clear here: I have enormous, deep, and profound respect for all the men who walked on the Moon, and all the men and women who put them there. But that does not give them a pass to ignore evidence and to draw drastically unrealistic conclusions without evidence to support them.

Source
blogs.discovermagazine.com...

[edit on 30-7-2008 by rocksarerocks]


reply posted on 30-7-2008 @ 11:13 AM by emsed1
Hmmm... seems like our buddy Clark has another agenda besides (quote) '$$$$$!!!'

McCain's Zionist Plan


# Clark C. McClelland, ScO June 22, 2008 @ 6:33 am I am from the US Space Program, 1958 to 1992! I have watched OUR space program being systematically destroyed, since the Zionist, Dan Golden was placed as the NASA Administrator by his fellow traveler, William Clinton. Golden is not the administrator any longer, but, his parrots are now continuing the total destruction of the space program that placed man on he moon! The indiotic future program that the low IQ George Bush has given his blessings, the Ares and the Constellation Programs will Vastly SPEND YOUR $$$, when the present Space Shuttle Program can continue and with a minimal redesign effort at a far less cost, can place US Astronauts back on the moon by 2013-14 much ealier than that of the MORON Bush effort. To cancel the Space Shuttle Program in 2010, is a suicidal destruction of OUR USA Space Program. The very effort that China awaits with pleasure! That, my fellow tax paying, birth right citizens of the USA, WE CANNOT allow to happen. Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

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