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reply posted on 4-9-2010 @ 04:40 AM by m0r1arty
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Not seen a television since the 1950's then?

This stuff is not only talked about, has channels specific to it and films made based on the concepts in the community but also is a popular internet search topic.

Screaming cover up is like screaming Michael at a Jackson 5 concert.

Nice thread rez.

-m0r


reply posted on 29-10-2010 @ 09:05 AM by tim3lord
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how have i been scammed? i didnt donate any money nor did i say i believed this story 100% all i said was has the mas media been alerted. i try to decide for myself what i choose to believe not jump on band wagons or throw babies out with the bathwater.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 06:10 PM by spiritualarchitect
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The skeptics excuse is that if someone is getting paid for it then it cannot be real. It is weird to think that my electricity, water and gas are not real. Neither is the internet, as I pay for that too.


reply posted on 7-12-2012 @ 06:56 PM by mazzroth
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Pure Fiction, Sci Fi, Fantasy call it what you want, its the new entertainment designed to catch out the crowd who would of normally got suckered into religion but have 60's parents who taught them to be atheist.


reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 05:43 AM by JimOberg
new interviews, even newer claims:



Whistle Blower Radio Kerry Cassidy Guest CLARK McCLELLAND

Published on Mar 2, 2013
REVOLUTION RADIO

www.youtube.com...



Interesting that Jeff Rense won't interview real whistle-blowers like McClellan, or Stew Webb either...and now we learn that the Kecksberg info is verboten by Jeff's handlers....interesting. I've suspected all along that Rense is from the dark side of the tracks...this confirms it. His seven ex-wives learned the hard way.

dont worry Clark, I'm just a dumb sheeple and I believe u. I dont kno what they r worried about us knowng stuff. ego's i guess

I don't doubt what he says, and I'm very knowledgeable in the sujbect of matter.










Kerry Cassidy with Clark McClelland - Israel, ET's and the Secret Space Program

www.youtube.com...


Published on Mar 3, 2013
Kerry Cassidy interviews NASA insider Clark McClelland and asks him about Israel's involvement with the Secret Space Program and ET's. Clark has plenty to say in this segment about who controls the world and the enslavement of humanity.


reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 10:56 AM by PINGi14
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Whoever that was being interviewed the first video seemed to be in bad health and having a hard time telling his story. Sounds like he is in the same age group as Apollo astronauts which makes me hope they are doing better with their health.

Also what's with the bad blood and name calling. From outsider's point of view, it's just a bunch of people telling unsubstantiated stories relating to UFO encounters. Instead of name calling I think it would be more convincing if some sort of hard evidence is presented to discredit the story or the storyteller.

I as well as everyone else doesn't care how many times the man telling the story was married. That's irrelevant information.

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reply posted on 4-3-2013 @ 01:01 PM by JimOberg
I think McClelland is important because it seems he's been the source of a lot of the 'space UFO' stories that have been appearing for more than 40 years. And as more detailed claims become available and can be checked independently, he's revealed as a very creative reteller -- even originator -- of rumor and gossip.

That can help better validate -- or dispell -- a significant subset of the common 'UFO lore'.

As far as I can tell from my checks with friends and associates at the Cape, Clark really was there for the time periods he claimed, working as a technician in launch pad fabrication and development. He seems to have been a contract employee of a series of aerospace and service companies -- as are most space workers, myself included -- but never a direct employee of NASA. What he discovered, as so many of the rest of us did as we got older, was that short-term contract work does not 'vest' an employee in the company pension fund until ten years of seniority, sometimes more.
And government agencies kept contract costs down by rebidding and awarding many key contracts regularly, often before most people hired for them had 'vested'.

It's entirely possible that Clark, like a lot of others, lost most if not all his 'retirement' benefits because his employment in a succession of short-term contracts never officially vested him in them. Of my own 22 years at the NASA center in Houston, only about half ever counted towards a formal pension plan. Such experience is typical for non-Civil-Service workers.

And again, apparently there is no record of Clark ever being a NASA employee directly [nor was I]. His last contract job, working on shuttle ground processing, was another contractor gig, and apparently he never assumed his official duties because in 1992 he failed a security clearance review. He was 57, and that was twenty years ago. The 'business card' [SCO Ground Test Astronaut] that he shows on his home page is bogus -- it contains his Orlando, Florida, personal PO Box address, for example.

How he apparently has been bounced from medicaid, meanwhile, really baffles me, since NASA would have had no authority to interfere with his benefits, which are purely due to age.

Whenever the stories he attributes to personal conversations with famous people can be checked, they seem connected with published magazine and book reports from years earlier, that he simply recast as having been told directly to him. I have seen no indication that any of the stories he tells have ever had independent corroboration, and many are patently preposterous because they conflict with known space engineering practices and capabilities.

What I find objectionable is what I see as his methodology of piggy-backing his own ego on fabrications about real people, many of whom I really do [or did] know personally, that portrays them as public falsifiers and deceivers [while slipping HIM the real 'inside truth']. Some of them are still alive, and those who are dead have living loved ones and friends who in many cases are insulted by these falsifications.

Specific examples: it now seems that McClelland is the originator of the Mercury-9 'Gordon Cooper' UFO story, later championed by Frank Edwards and others, that even Cooper himself -- no stranger to UFO reports -- had to repudiate. In the 1960s and 1970s, through reports to NICAP and other UFO writers, he seems to have generated many if not most of the fables about 'astronauts and UFOs' that have infested the UFO literature indelibly.
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