Originally posted by BlueTriangle
I'll give that one to you. It says this on the page "he is an active member of....
Well what if I said that I'm an active member of The American Kennel Club, The National Association of Dog Obedience Instructors and I'm on the
board of The Associations of Pet Behavior Counselors, have studied under Ian Dunbar and Jean Donaldson, have my Master's Degree in Psychology and
Bachelor's in Canine Behavior. I have been a member of the American Protection and Patrol Dog Association since 1993 and I've been a certified
Working Dog Trainer for Personal Protection, Schutzhund and Police Service Dogs since 1982.
Would you believe me? Because I know what I'm doing. Sounds pretty impressive, right? But none of it's true.
The one part of your statement that gets under my skin is "Did they show their birth certificate?"
Sorry, you're right. Did they show their credentials? Or do you just believe it because you read it?
Every time someone like you or Mr. Wiggins posts requests for birth cerficates of people when they aren't needed it strikes me as a deflection
I'll appreciate you holding me responsible for my statements or questions, but not someone else's. Thanks.
Are you guys that scared of discussing the topic?
*I* want to see it.
Then contact his campaign. No one here has it.
I do not care to see it. Here's why (think carefully about these):
1. I trust that his credentials have been checked by the proper authorities.
2. If Obama wanted to forge a birth Certificate, he has access to the best in the country. In the world!
3. If there is ANY question about his qualifications for POTUS, I feel CERTAIN that Hillary Clinton and John McCain have thoroughly had them checked,
rechecked and checked again.
4. If Obama is a tool of the New World Order, there's NO WAY in hell seeing his birth certificate is going to make a difference.
5. If I were holding the thing in my hand, I couldn't tell you whether it's real or not. COULD YOU?
If he's the golden boy you seem to be making him out to be...
I do not make him out to be a golden boy. You are assuming that.
Certainly you're not afraid that it really is a forgery?
No, I'm not afraid. I don't know if the certificate on his website has been edited or not, but I believe the information on it is true. I think,
it's been edited, it's to prevent disclosure of some non-related information, like the legal marital status of his parents or something
inconsequential, that is none of anyone's business.
Now that I've answered your questions, I would appreciate it if you would answer mine.
Have you seen these forensic qualifications?
So you believe that these people are experts?
How can they validate or invalidate a document on line?
Do you know whether or not he has shown a valid, physical copy of his birth certificate to the State Department?
If you were holding it in your hand, could you tell if it were real?
And then I am done with this thread.
This is the third birth certificate thread after the moderators said there would be no more.
I suggest you consider pulling out of this, too. There is no logic here and we are supporting this nonsense as much as anyone.
[edit on 30-7-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]