[HOAX]Mystery Space Machines, by John Walson[HOAX], page 1

Maybe these findings of John Walson have been in questions here before...

www.rense.com...

Look this site, but there is lots of more...

Jeff Rense has been monitoring Walsons findings for a long time now. I have been looking those miracles also for a year now. I have no explanation for these "ships" ... Have you?

Here is lots of debunkers and skeptist... Can you deny these findings too?

- What are those things?
- They are many, who has build them?
- What is their reason over there?

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John Lenard Walson's material has been determined to be a hoax





[edit on 7/1/2009 by yeahright]

and here's some samples of john walson/gridkeeper threads here in ATS. enjoy, they're quite entertaining...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

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You know the case...

So, he havent give original fotos to open investigation?

Has he debate from his findings with long time UFO researchers at all?

But why Jeff Rense support him all this way, if, like you say, he is full hoax? What other channels he use to widen his findings, is Jeff the only one who supports him?

Thanks!

reply to post by beastamerica

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Thanks from links!

For him to be the most famous person in the world, if what he says is true, all he needs to do is divulge his super secret hobby shop telescope information so thousands of scientists around the world can verify his method and data..and boom...he's famous and getting off with paid interviews from hundreds of sources. But he has not done that yet, has he? Wonder why, lol.

There is no need to bother looking into the video evidence or photos coming from this camp. The story behind it and the individuals involved, along with their questionable motives and tactics, make it worthless to look into it further. End of story.

Here's a really funny thread on GLP concerning these fools (a very funny must read if your up to it, lol) GLP CasBolt

Just thought i would chip in here,

I found this video of him actually filming them through his scope and onto his laptop at 5-33 mins in.



Also if he is a hoaxer then why is he being hassled by the military?
When did you last get a military helicopter buzzing your garden that low?



I just think that if theres nothing in what he says then why all the attention?

reply to post by JanusFIN

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very interesting photos

I think several can be explained as being something we know is up there, the ISS

I did a quick google images search for ISS and got a ton of results from all sorts of angles

keep in mind that the images on renses site are extreme closeup, blurry, distorted, possibly colorized/tinted to enhance outlines and whatever else to show a better outline & closeup image.

one elongated shape is seen several times and it definitely resembles the ISS at a different angle but the outline is there



the ISS has several configurations it can appear in, depending on the task at hand



the other images appear to be sattelites



The video though is very interesting and I'd like to know more about that

Originally posted by cropmuncher

YouTube Link

This is very interesting indeed

[edit on 30-6-2009 by warrenb]

reply to post by warrenb

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Hi warren, i agree that most of the things in the vids & photos look quite similar.
It is interesting though that he seems to have been slated for his claims, i must of missed something but it seems that someone is on his case in that low helicopter video.

edit - i guess they dont like anyone taking pics of whats up there eh?

[edit on 30/6/09 by cropmuncher]

reply to post by zorgon

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Blimey that sounds like a noisy place you live.

I did wonder after if it could be elsewhere but it seemed genuine enough, although ive read a bit since posting and see he has a lot of skeptics.

I dont get it, why not just share the data if its real, and in my opinion it looks pretty real esp when you see other people are doing it.

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