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Topic started on 8-1-2003 @ 11:11 AM by joehayner
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The human race was seeded. Think about it. What other things do we know of that spread and harm the environment. Meaning the environment developed
without us. It was not meant for us.
The zebra muscle, a clam, was carried to America by the settlers. It spread and now are found most everywhere. Human race did the same thing.
Intelligent life is a disease of the cosmos.
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reply posted on 8-1-2003 @ 11:17 AM by Lupe_101
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your argument makes no sense, the proof bares no relation to your initial statement that we were seaded. Do you intend to continue posting banal
flights of fancy with no evidence to back up or justify your contentions or will this be the last time?
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reply posted on 8-1-2003 @ 11:34 AM by Winston Smith
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If, as you believe, we originated elsewhere, why are we so similar to all other life here?
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reply posted on 8-1-2003 @ 12:01 PM by joehayner
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To the first poster, what makes no sense? I explained, we spread and damage things. People do not follow the laws of nature.
To the second poster, we are slightly similar in appearance, but our habits show differently. A race theoretically(sp?) could evolve the same as
another in a different region. So why not a different, but older planet. What if it was near the same as Earth? What would happen then?
This will not be my last post, so don't go verbally attacking people for their opinions Lupe.
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reply posted on 8-1-2003 @ 12:26 PM by Gazrok
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Well, there is pretty good evidence that charts our evolution from the get go...(not including the so-called missing link, of which many periodic
examples have been found). So, it's hard to argue that we were "seeded". However, it is always intriguing in how we relate to our world, and have
the ability to make things, change our environment, etc. even when other highly intelligent creatures never did (i.e. you don't see dolphins building
underwater condos). So, instead of "seeded", the better word might be "altered".
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reply posted on 9-1-2003 @ 04:49 PM by joehayner
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Touche' Gazrok
But how were we altered? By who or what? A cosmic radiation? A reaction similar to how life was created? The Greys themselves? If so why?
Makes you think...
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reply posted on 10-1-2003 @ 10:53 AM by ultra_phoenix
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Originally posted by joehayner
People do not follow the laws of nature.

And what are these so-called laws of nature ?
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reply posted on 11-1-2003 @ 11:07 AM by joehayner
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The basic law of nature is that, things must develop an equilibrium with the environment. All things must be balanced. The populations must be
maintained, no overpopulating, no underpopulating.
Wouldn't you say we are overpopulated?
Things in their natural environment will not overpopulate to an extream. Dandilions were not even in the United States before the Settlers came, now
they are most everywhere, The same goes for zebra muscles.
It's common sense. We must be in the wrong environment. We could not have developed on earth.
Now we are the only intelligent life we can compair to, but if others are like us, that means intelligent life must be a mistake.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 07:37 AM by Shadow
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You take the phrase "jumping to conclusions" to a whole new level. We are overpopulated for many reasons, one being the fact that for the most part
the members our species don't have to kill each other to survive. In industrialized countries, people earn money with which to buy the goods they
need to survive. They also utilize modern medical technology to prolong thier life span. That technology may not exist in third world countries, where
overpopulation is often the result of increased reproduction to try to bring more money into the family. There may be a reletively high death rate,
but there is an even higher birth rate in most third world countries.
It is our intellignece and desires that lead us to overpopulate. We are able to override the instinct to maintain a symbiotic relationship with our
environment, whereas other species lack the intelligence to act on anything other than instinct. At one time the ancestors of modern humans coexisted
with the environment, but as they gained intelligence they developed an apathetic attitude toward the environment. That doesn't mean that they we
were "seeded" from space, it just means that we developed negative attitudes toward the environemnt as we developed into a civilization.
Your statements are not common sense, they are wild conclusions based on incredibly flawed logic. I'm not saying that everything I've said here is a
fact, but my opinions are rooted what I believe to be sound logic.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 11:00 AM by joehayner
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Good point shadow...
But, I believe all the things you listed are a result of the seeding.
The intelligent life its self is the result of it.
Have any other creatures on earth developed this attitude toward the environment?
No.
Do you know why?
It is because, they, are the natural inhabitors of their environment.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 11:48 AM by Kano
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Or, alternatively, it could be because none of the other creatures on earth is sentient?
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 12:26 PM by Byrd
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Genetics presents a very simple argument against seeding.
If we were seeded, then WHY are 98% of our genes the same ones as found in the great apes? Why are so many of our genes the same ones found in living
organisms from plants to animals? 50% of our genes are the same ones found in bananna plants, you know.
Something totally alien wouldn't be even that compatable.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 01:50 PM by joehayner
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How can you tell?
What if somthing on a similar planet to Earth evolved.
Wouldn't it be remarkably similar to all the things on Earth? Why not?
Same planet, same evolution line, same species.
Hey, it could happen...
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 05:20 PM by LostProphet
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A virus is similar to humans. I'm sure you remember this speach from the matrix. A virus overpopulates and uses all the resources of one area and
moves on to a different area only to destroy that too. Kind of like what humans do. Are viruses from another planet? *cough* IDK what you would say
about that one but i think they're from right here on earth.
Also, viruses are not intelligent. Unless they have very very tiny brains which..well..is not the case. So maybe it's not our intelligence that is
what makes us overpopulate and destroy, but our stupidity.
But, if I'm remembering correctly from biology class, viruses are also not living organisms. Where that statement can go I'm not sure.
I'm not going to say that your idea is stupid or false for sure, but it's just not probable and I don't feel the same.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 05:34 PM by joehayner
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A virus when it gets into an area that is not its natural environment will spread, anywhere where there is somthing to support its life.
Same goes for humans.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 05:41 PM by LostProphet
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So tell me what exactly is a virus's "natural environment"? Does that mean someone or something "planted" it into a human blood stream or body?
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 05:59 PM by joehayner
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Don't be dense or sarcastic to me. A virus has no natural environment. That's why it spreads where ever it can, and does damage.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 06:04 PM by LostProphet
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Originally posted by joehayner
A virus when it gets into an area that is not its natural environment will spread 
I'm not being dense or sarcastic, just asking questions about what you yourself said.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 06:13 PM by joehayner
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You asked if it was planted by another entity. Most occor naturally(not being planted), meaning you catch them from being around other people with
them.
This is just a thought I had. I have no real proof to back it up, but it was somthing I noticed. That does not mean I believe it.
Just thought I'd post it to see what others would think about it.
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reply posted on 13-1-2003 @ 11:06 PM by Byrd
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Actually, Joe, viruses don't move into just anything or any organism. They're parasitic and have specific hosts. This is why cats don't get polio
or the flu and why humans don't get distemper or feline leukemia (unlike human leukemia, feline leukemia is caused by a virus.)
Bacteria are also very specific and require certain conditions for them to survive. Different species require different things, which is why we find
bacteria living in boiling-hot springs that can't live in the soil and soil-living bacteria that can't survive in the ocean.
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