Originally posted by Truth
dear lilblam, I appretiate your care for free will, but when I say I would deny them, I mean I would deny somethingthat is not me.
Maybe the teachings of Jesus that you read in the Bible sound GOOD to you, and you affiliate with them because they feel "right", as you feel you
"resonate" with them or something. However, does everything that FEELS right necessarily mean it is in any way factual or true?
Yup, I agree that we all have our orientation and subjective views, however some people occasionally develop the WILL to look beyond their subjective
mental BOX, and try to see the world as it IS, by seeking objective truth in all things, rather than claiming that "I'll never alter my personal
opinion because this is me". This isn't an easy task, but maybe worth considering?
No one is telling you to CHANGE your views, but maybe QUESTIONING them is a start? If your views comply with REALITY, you'll find that out when you
question them, won't you? And if they are not, at least you'll know that you've been deceived. Yet the initial action must be done by YOU, the part
where you ASK yourself if what you've read, seen, and heard and BELIEVE is indeed REALITY or just your desire for it to be real.
Jesus teachings are me. Nobody told me this but me. If someone, (even) a prophet who came and worked miracles taught against that which goes against
which IS me, i would deny them.
You are what you are. However, and you may agree, that some people are immersed in an illusion that they consider to be reality, but because they hold
their beliefs so DEARLY CLOSE, they are afraid to question them or even CONSIDER a possibility to the contrary.
Once again, no one's asking you to put your faith or belief into anything, any other "teachings". I simply suggest that you use logic and careful
observation of YOURSELF, your BELIEFS, and maybe consider wondering why it is you have them anyway. Maybe not. Your choice!
It come down to truth.
Yup, it sure does! All our "beliefs" or "hopes" or "wishes" or "assumptions" are irrelavant, as they do not MAKE something true. So how does
one know what is truth? Well there's a difference between seeking to KNOW, or simply believing. It's a personal decision, so don't feel pressured
or rushed to do anything you're not ready.
Like Morpheus (from the Matrix) roughly said, he only offers the pills, it is YOUR choice whether you want to take his offer and find out how deep the
rabbit hole really goes, or not. It's all about free will choice, is it not?
If I worshipped a soda can, that does not make it true.
Precisely, and neither does worshipping Jesus or any other "God" or entity make this entity's claims or existance a reality. If someone DOES
worship a soda can, would you not suggest that they maybe question their motives for such? Well that's what I'm suggesting to you, and anyone else
who worships ANYTHING for that matter. Is worshipping anything even a necessity? I think that would be helpful to think about... for anyone.
Your theories sound so logical to some peple, but to me its not true. What jesus says IS true to me and it was me before I heard of him.
So Jesus is logical to you, and I am not? Perhaps you are speaking subjectively here, as a thing either IS logical or is not... how could it be
logical to SOMEONE and illogical to someone else? One or both of these people have their logic screwed up, it would seem. Maybe you should reflect
upon what makes something logical, and how one defines logic, before you can decide what is logical and what's not?
Can you please respect this? This is all im asking.
What makes you think I do not? Can I not offer advice or suggestions? It is your free will to read them as well! I don't call you up on the phone to
suggest these things..
Now, let me ask you this about the topic.
If something happened to cause martial law, then what would it be?
[Edited on 19-3-2004 by Truth]
Then it would be martial law. Is that adequately answered? I'm not sure what you want me to say here.. coudl you rephrase the question, if you seek a
more specific response please?