The baby was 2 months old. Sorry but I have a child and you don't take your eyes off of it, EVER. If you do, you are an unfit parent. The mother was 17, and the father didn't look like much of a role model either. They also said it was unclear how long the baby had been dead. If I were the authorities, I would wanna know how long it took that baby to take it's last breath. There was also a small pug in the home and two cats. If I don't see articles posted like this every day I know they still happen. I think they should all go before a jury on this one. Everyone who was in that house and then some. I wouldn't leave my baby with the mother if I were the father, obviously the grandmother either. My mother wont even let me take care of my own child and I AM a good parent, that's a good grandmother. They were there and no one was watching this child. Have you seen a picture of the dog that they put down for this. I don't see a dog in the picture, I see a scapegoat. Someone was too young to raise their child and someones parents didn't want to take on the burden. So they just figured they would be negligent untill something happened and then get the pitty plea on this one. But when they take a further look I'm sure it will all come out in the wash. However, I don't reley on the authorities for much of anything. If anything they have been known to do more harm than good. They will probably write it off as an accident, I hope not. Burn em. The signs are pointing west my friend... They'll all get off.

Not ALL labs are nice, not at all. I still don't see how a puppy could have done this without the parents hearing? Unless it was a case of the dog's first bite getting an important part of the baby, like the throat or something. Puppies teeth are tiny, but also babies skin etc are tender.

Anyway, we had a prob with a lab in our neighborhood (full blood), he came running into my yard where I was with my cat's and dog, was aggressive with me (growling, baring its teeth etc) as I tried to get it to leave, chased our cat viciously, grabbed her by the next, shook her around and broke my sweet little cat's neck.

Poor babies, human and animal.

OH MY GOSH! I cannot stand the stupity any longer!

Accidents happen people, and I am sorry, but if you say you have a child and watch it 24/7 YOU ARE A LIAR.

Do you never sleep?? Do you stand over the crib when the baby sleeps?

I think both of the dogs knocked the swing over and the baby was dead before the parents/grandparent even knew what happened. Like I stated earlier, the parents may have been catching up on some sleep while the baby slept. It happens all the time, all over the world. Doctors even encourgage you to sleep while the baby sleeps.

There is NO WAY the parents would have been as upset as they were is they were involved and any way.

This whole story reeks of BS ! A six week old puppy, kills a baby, gimme a break ! First off Labs are one of the best breeds of dogs around, especially in a family envioroment. They are extremely, loving, loyal, and generally protective of children. I can't fathom a 6 week old puppy of any breed being able to maul anything.


There are many other possibilities here. If the baby was purposely mauled it would make more sense that the pug did it, rather than the puppy. The pug as an older dog could've been jealous of two new arrivals in the household, could have been agitated by the movement of the baby in the swing, or by the baby's cries.


They also took two cats out of the house, so why are they all jumping to the conclusion that the dog did it ? Cats can be vicious also, they have very sharp claws, and their bites can be worse than a dog bite. Cats also have a tendency to swat and bite at moving things, maybe the action of the baby swinging provocked the playfull/ predatory nature of the cats.


Maybe the baby died naturally from SIDS while left unattended in the swing, maybe he choked to death, and the animal started chewing, or biting the baby after he was already dead.


Possibly one of the adults accidently, or purposely killed the child and purposely left the baby there for the puppy to chew on.


Even if the baby was killed through the actions of one of the animals it was still due to the neglect of the adults in that house. How is a baby mauled to death and no one hears that baby crying ? That baby would've been screaming in pain and terror if he was alive while an animal was biting him.


The age of the mother also leads me to believe that something else happened here. Along with the fact that they haven't revealed who the other person was that was present in that house. They said the baby's father left for work at 8 am, then the grandfather put the baby in the swing at 8:30 am and then he left the house. They said there were 3 people in the house, they mention the mother and the grandmother, so who was the third person ?


If i was an officer on the scene investigating, i would have searched the house for a baby monitor. I honestly don't know a person today that has a baby and doesn't have a baby monitor. When my grandchildren were babies we always had the monitor on if we weren't in thge same room with them. If i was in the kitchen the monitor was with me, if we sat outside and the baby was inside we had the monitor outside with us, when i went to sleep the monitor went into my bedroom with me.

You can't leave a baby unattended, especially an 8 week old baby, without the use of a baby monitor. anything can happen, regardless of wether there are animals present or not.

It's a shame that that poor defenseless puppy was put to death before they even knew what really happened. I'd like to know why the police requested the puppy be put to death, were they trying to cover something up ?

A half WOLF?!

I've owned two, if trained right they are very loving and gentle, at least my first one was. She was a wolf/german shepard mixture and she was the best darn "dog" I have ever owned. The second was a wolf/husky mix that I rescued from abuse, sadly she was far too damaged by her previous owners to be retrained though we worked with her for over a year. Not everyone should own one, especially if you have no idea how to train them.

Loved the "take a rolled up newspaper, every time your puppy has an accident hit yourself over the head"

Originally posted by chise61
This whole story reeks of BS ! A six week old puppy, kills a baby, gimme a break ! First off Labs are one of the best breeds of dogs around, especially in a family envioroment. They are extremely, loving, loyal, and generally protective of children. I can't fathom a 6 week old puppy of any breed being able to maul anything.

We can speculate all we want but aren't they going to examine the body and probably figure this out? If they don't, then we can start guessing about what the puppy did or didn't do.

Originally posted by Ceara

First of all, they should have never gotten a puppy that was 6 weeks old. A true breeder would not let a puppy leave until it was at least 8 weeks old. They need the time for puppy mental development and socialization. 2 weeks doesn't sound like much from 6 to 8 weeks, but there's a big difference.

The only thing I can think of, the family purchased the puppy from a puppy mill, and probably a lot cheaper than through a licensed breeder. And if it came from a puppy mill, it did not have proper socialization and handling by humans. Someone should investigate where the puppy was purchased.

No pet should be left alone with a human baby anyway regardless of it's breed or size. Too many things can happen. Scratches, bumps, knocking over, etc. Both should always be supervised at ALL times. I blame the parent and other people in this situation.

I agree with everything that you said, you're right on all counts. Especially about the puppies age, no reputable breeder would take a puppy away from it's mother before the age of 8 weeks, it's just too soon. When my lab had a littter of 8 pups none of them left the house before the age of 9 weeks, and i kept most of then until 12 weeks, everybody that brought one of the pups home said they had never had such an easy time with a puppy, or had such a well adjusted puppy. Puppies need to stay with the mother and the litter as long as possible for proper socialization skills.


Anybody that leaves a baby or small child with any animal, especially a new pet, is just asking for trouble. If that puppy did bite the baby, it was not at all in a malicious way, the puppy was simply trying to play.

You know, I was extremely upset to hear about this story. My son's great-grandfather told me about the article in the newspaper, and I just had to read for myself. I am a mother, having a 15 month old son, and am the owner of two labs. Hunter is 9 months old and Hershey is 2 years old. I have NEVER doubted their temperment when it came to our son. Labs are usually the number one dog when it comes to family. I could understand an older dog being jealous and attacking more than a new puppy. They would've had to have just gotten the puppy. We got Hunter in December, when he was 7 weeks old, and there was NEVER a time when I feared for my son's life with him. My son was in the crawling stage, at 7 months, and the puppy always left him alone. Even to this day, he only walks up to him to give him a kiss and then walks away. We were always told to get rid of our dogs when we had our son, that big dogs are not good around kids....but I'd trust a big dog with a child any day over a small dog. Small dogs are known to nip, and although labs are definitely a handful as puppies, I don't think that the baby would've been enough of a distraction to cause the puppy to want to spend that much time trying to get to the baby. We did, at times, leave our son in his swing, when we were trying to get things done and at times, that was the ONLY way he would sleep, but we were ALWAYS able to hear him. Our dogs were in the house, but most of the time they would follow us. They could care less about the baby. I mean, everyone who has owned a 6 week old puppy knows what their routine is like....play, sleep, bathroom, play, sleep, eat... I really doubt that a 6 week old puppy would want to get to the baby enough to try that hard. When our son was 2 months old, if he wasn't asleep, he was crying....and I would think that the parents or whoever was in the house would've heard the crying. Plus, the swings are big...I really doubt that the puppy could've knocked it over...they make the swings so that they're not very easy to knock over. 6 week old lab puppies weigh hardly 10-15 lbs..... I think the pug would be the more likely suspect. I wouldn't trust a little dog any day. Lab puppes can be a handfull....Hunter was a pretty easy lab and so was Hershey, but I have heard horror stories about their chewing, but every puppy chews. All puppies chew.... Like I said, this story horrified me, because I could never imagine a puppy doing this. I wouldn't know really who to blame in this case....the parents should've heard the crying. I mean, who can't hear the crying? And like someone else said...where is their baby monitor? If we were somewhere we couldn't hear the baby, like outside, then we always had the baby moniter. Even to this day we use his monitor...but if they were outside, why was the puppy still inside? Why wouldn't they have brought both dogs outside? This story just really pisses me off....

I have never allowed a pet in the house when I had my children EVER, unless it was under absolute and complete supervision at all times.

It's absolutely un-acceptable, ridiculous and insane to think that the parents didn't even question leaving a puppy in the same room with the baby un-attended. I don't care if it was a kitten or a bird, you don't leave an animal with a 6 month year old baby alone together in the same room un-supervised ever . PERIOD.

What a HORRIBLE death!

Conclusion,

PARENTS---GUILTY AS CHARGED!




[edit on 29-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]

Originally posted by Bombeni
BTW they opened the puppy and have sent his stomach contents to OSBI for analysis. I'm sure you all really wanted to know that.

I'm sure that's not all they did. Where i live it's procedure in cases of animal bites. That the animal either be under observation for two weeks either through your vet, or animal control, or the animal is put to death and decapitated and the brain examined for signs of rabies

Ok I have read every post.

I believe all of you people are not really thinking how a baby's legs hang down from the swing.....chubby legs and all with a VITAL artery running down the inside of the thie.

So say this pup is nipping at the baby's feet & jumps up on hind legs and gets a good mouthful of the inner thie, and then the action of the swing back and forth would cause a tug of war for the puppy, and in no time really this baby's inner thie is ripped open and the child is bleeding to death. The puppy does not necessarily HAVE to go for the babys throat for it to bleed to death VERY fast....babys are so small the don't have that much blood anyway...

Fact remains that the child WOULD indeed scream. MAYBE everyone in the other room is listening to a load TV set, and a washer and dryer is going in the hallway.......STILL you would think they would hear 'something'..

On another note altogether
.....the metal of my car was eaten by a pug dog. This pug chewed on my car every night for a week and the damage cost the owner over a thousand dollars to fix all the problems....I caught the pug on my hood with my windshield wiper in its mouth ripping its head back and forth and growling trying to tear the wiper from the car

Here is a photo to prove I KNOW what I am saying here.......

This pic is just one area of damage but notice the pug ate the mudflap and is actually gouging the metal of the car with its teeth.......now since a pug CAN do THIS much damage to metal it could so easily kill a baby.
MAYBE they are blaming the wrong dog???

Maybe not..........they prolly caught the puppy covered in blood with plenty of 'baby' in its mouth, and if that IS the case you can all understand it being put down ASAP.



[edit on 29-7-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

Originally posted by Zealott
It's much smaller than that little pup, the pup could fit the baby's head in it's jaws and with one shake kill it no crying no struggle it was stuck in a swing.

How many 8 week old babies have you seen, and how many 6 week old labs have you seen ? A six week old lab can NOT fit a babies head into his jaws. And a six week old pup can NOT kill a baby with one shake. A full grown dog, maybe, but a six week old pup, NO.

If this was a pitbull I would say maybe. But a lab? To me this would be far fetched. Im not saying it couldnt happen Im just saying its not likely to happen without at least some SERIOUS negligence.