6-week old puppy kills baby, page 3
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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 11:34 AM by Ceara
Originally posted by Bombeni

Nice pics, I never had a lab but any I have been around seemed so very intelligent. I have always said if I ever get a big dog it would be a German Shepherd or a Lab. I like smart dogs.


Golden Retrievers are good. Usually smart but I know of one next door that's kinda dumb and silly. But she's still a good dog. My dogs are both very smart, loving and gentle. The older one will approach strangers when they come to visit us and offer a paw for shake and want to be petted.

I've had experience with German Shepherds. Used to walk a neighbor's when I was a kid. They are good dogs too. I also used to have a pure bred Collie, like Lassie. He was fun, but liked to "herd" me as I ran around in the yard with him and he would nip at my heels. lol But I was 13 at the time. Rottweilers and Pit Bulls get a bad rap, but it's all up to the humans who raise them ultimately, starting with the breeder present at birth, who should have daily interaction with puppies, before they ever open their eyes. Most of the bigger dogs are good. It's the little toy dogs that I find are a total pain. People think because a dog is small, that it's harmless and it's allowed to get away with murder. In the wrong environment they can be territorial, toy-aggressive, food-aggressive, and people aggressive. Plus they have a tendency to yap yap yap. But the owners usually say oh how cute and do nothing to stop the behavior.

I still think the Lab pup in this case was from a puppy mill. Normally in those cases, puppies are bred as quick as possible for money making and barely any care is put into the pups or the dams. So when it comes time for them to be adopted, they usually don't have any social skills with people, other animals or environments. If the pup came from a licensed breeder, I would be very surprised. That breeder wouldn't be breeding much longer. It could have come from a back-yard breeder also, from an "oops" litter.

If you want a dog, I highly recommend getting one from a shelter or rescue group that's already gone through the puppy stages, or has been living in foster homes with children and/or other pets. PetFinder is usually a good website for finding pets in foster care situations and usually come with a background story.
PetFinder

Then you know the animal has a good behavior record. Plus usually they are already house trained. Too many people get puppies, and the pups end up abandoned, re-homed or euthanized because some people just can't handle a puppy. I don't think anyone should get a young puppy unless they are home all the time, like a housewife. In some dog rescues, that's a requirement before they let the puppy be adopted, along with crating the puppy. A good pet adoption agency will question you and want to see the environment where the animal would be living.

The people in this case didn't seem to know much about dogs either and were negligent. I would never leave a tiny puppy alone, because without constant supervision, the pup can poop/pee everywhere and ruin floors (which makes house training very difficult when they are allowed to eliminate where they want), or chew stuff, which can lead to intestinal blockage, or worse, get into chemicals. Shouldn't leave infants alone either. Even though they may look comfy in their sleep, anything could happen, like Sudden Infant Death.

Those people should never have children or pets again. Clearly, they cannot handle either.

This better not have the same effect to the masses like all the other dog maulings out there. Next we'll have Labs put on restriction lists, like Pit Bulls are in Ontario, Canada. Every decade there's usually a dog breed that's put on the "no-no" list of do not adopt because they attack. That's so ignorant. That's like cornering a lion in a cage, taunting it, then getting mad because it bit your hand. Do you blame the animal, or the humans responsible for the animal?

Labs and Retrievers and other similar dogs were bred through many generations to have a desire to be with humans and help them, not harm. They are meant to find and carry prey, be it a toy or a downed bird.

One member thinks this kind of posting is bringing down ATS. I disagree.

This story just goes to show that the police aren't using their heads. They euthanized one dog but not the other. What made them choose the Lab over the Pug, I don't understand. But perhaps more information will be released later.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 11:42 AM by Bombeni
reply to post by Ceara



I totally agree about getting a dog from Shelters, I have had two shelter dogs and they just seem to know they've been rescued and spend their lives thanking you.

I hear they have confiscated all the animals including cats now. Someone suggested the parents asked the puppy to be put down. Lots of missing info here. I'll post what I hear, I live in Tulsa.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:07 PM by Zealott
reply to post by Ceara



I've been around quite a few children and raised 2 labs. The nicest most gentle one bit me on the face when it was a pup.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:29 PM by Ceara
reply to post by Zealott



And what occurred to allow that to happen? You got in it's face? You allowed yourself to be in the position were it could happen? The dog got a little wild while playing and wasn't stopped, made to lay down or otherwise distracted? Or did the dog lunge from whatever position it was in and aimed directly at your face out of pure spite?

There's a funny house-training thing I read once, but feel it applies to all these situations where the dog is blamed for something.

This isn't verbatim, but you will get the general idea.

To properly house train your puppy, get a newspaper and roll it up. Every time your puppy makes a mess, promptly hit yourself over the head with the newspaper while saying, "I forgot to watch my puppy."


I grew up with all sorts of animals, and was NEVER seriously hurt by any of them. Not once did I ever have to go to the emergency room because of an animal. I had hamsters, multiple cats, parakeets, fish and dogs. Our house was like a zoo. lol We also kept around 6 egg laying chickens in the backyard, and one rooster. That rooster didn't like many people, but he liked me, and enjoyed being cuddled and pet and would "coo" while in my lap. I was around 6 at the time. But I always had at least one parent around to watch me while I was with any animal, without exception. I learned from a very early age how to handle animals. I even kept a Bull snake at one point.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:42 PM by Bombeni
reply to post by ben420




Ben, well thanks for the warning! If I ever get a lab will look for one already grown. Seriously, I am still in shock over this but I have to say that this same scenario is being played out all over the world this very minute: that is, a very small child yes babies too are alone in a room with household pets. That part I can't hide my head in the sand about and say I would never leave a room with baby in a swing and a seemingly harmless animal, at least momentarily. The part I don't get is how the dog whichever one it was killed the baby without alerting the people in the house. Babies scream bloody murder when they get immunization shots, so how much worse would repeated puppy teeth bites be?


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 01:09 PM by Heike
Here's the latest update. They've released the child's name but not much else seems to be new information:

Update


It does seem odd that they euthanized the puppy immediately. At first I thought, rabies test perhaps? But what would be the point since the baby is dead and no one else was bitten?


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 01:13 PM by spitefulgod
reply to post by Blueracer



It's a six week old dog, it wasn't attacking the baby it was playing, the fact that these "parents" leave their child unattended is disgusting.
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