Originally posted by Bombeni
... I always considered labs one of the gentlest dogs you could find.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Bombeni]

Yes, a full-grown labrador retriever is indeed very gentle. As a puppy, there is no more rambunctious, energy-filled, trouble-causing dog on the planet.

Labs make terrible puppies, but very good dogs.

Ooh where did you hear about the stomach contents being analyzed?

They could have done that before killing the puppy. A rescue group would have taken the pup.

There was a pug around in the house too. No one seems to be pointing a finger at that.

If anyone is near Oklahoma, maybe you can call the authorities and ask them to check out where the pup came from. If it came from a puppy mill, now would be the time to shut them down.

I noticed that several of the posters here did not watch the video.

Just to play devil's advocate: I did watch the video on CNN this morning. The mother and father of the baby (yes, they are just kids) were extremely distraught and the mother had to be transported to the hospital. However, the grandmother was just standing close to the house smoking a cigarette. This does not mean that she had anything to do with the baby's death, everyone handles shock differently.

Also, the whole "Left in the swing for an indeterminent amount of time" comment: How many people that posted to this have children? Both of my children napped in their swings on occasion. Maybe the parents were trying to catch up on sleep while the baby slept. We don't know that the adults in the house didn't respond as soon as the baby cried out. But the injuries could have been too severe. 911 was called.

Originally posted by quaple_pouge
I noticed that several of the posters here did not watch the video.

Just to play devil's advocate: I did watch the video on CNN this morning. The mother and father of the baby (yes, they are just kids) were extremely distraught and the mother had to be transported to the hospital. However, the grandmother was just standing close to the house smoking a cigarette. This does not mean that she had anything to do with the baby's death, everyone handles shock differently.

Also, the whole "Left in the swing for an indeterminent amount of time" comment: How many people that posted to this have children? Both of my children napped in their swings on occasion. Maybe the parents were trying to catch up on sleep while the baby slept. We don't know that the adults in the house didn't respond as soon as the baby cried out. But the injuries could have been too severe. 911 was called.

I was wondering if CNN would pick this up. BTW, I saw numerous local reports and in at least a couple of them you see the grandmother looking like she's lost her mind and on the verge of collapse.

Well, this is just BS. I have had labs all of my life and in all my 42 years, I have never seen one maul anything. I agree that one of the adults is responsible for this baby's death and to keep from going to jail, they blamed it on the poor pup. Tragic all the way around. Now let's see if there will be any kind of justice for the deaths of those two babies.

Originally posted by Stereotomy
Well, this is just BS. I have had labs all of my life and in all my 42 years, I have never seen one maul anything. I agree that one of the adults is responsible for this baby's death and to keep from going to jail, they blamed it on the poor pup. Tragic all the way around. Now let's see if there will be any kind of justice for the deaths of those two babies.

Sterotomy, I understand your theory except the police have already stated they believe the baby was mauled, they say it obviously had many bite marks. If the parents accidentally killed the baby it would be pretty hard to get a puppy to bite it all over to cover the evidence. Either way you cut it though the story doesn't add up.

Posting this kind of crap is one reason ATS is slipping.....badly. Time to change channels. Perhaps the baby was alien....then good doggie.

the end

Originally posted by merky
Posting this kind of crap is one reason ATS is slipping.....badly. Time to change channels. Perhaps the baby was alien....then good doggie.

the end

Yeah, let's talk about floating colored balls and the NWO.

Originally posted by merky
Posting this kind of crap is one reason ATS is slipping.....badly. Time to change channels. Perhaps the baby was alien....then good doggie.

the end

how is this any more detrimental to ATS? I mean seriously, posting a story about a lab puppy supposedly "mauling" a baby does not harm ATS in any way. But yeah, lets continue on ranting about Obama being the Anti-Christ. i swear.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot

Originally posted by Bombeni
... I always considered labs one of the gentlest dogs you could find.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Bombeni]

Yes, a full-grown labrador retriever is indeed very gentle. As a puppy, there is no more rambunctious, energy-filled, trouble-causing dog on the planet.

Labs make terrible puppies, but very good dogs.

I have 3 dogs, all rescued/adopted, all retriever-type dogs. My black lab was a terribly rambunctious puppy, not to be outdone by the flat-coated or the newfoundland/lab mix. Lab puppies are also tremedous chewers and curious to a fault. While those little razor-like puppy teeth can shred like a knife, a ctying baby would have stopped that action very quickly. Even as puppies, my dogs instantly responded to "ouch" when playing and chewing got uncomfortable. "Ouch" is a powerful training tool to teach dogs not to bite and a baby crying out would have changed the puppies mental state. When raised right, labs make the BEST dogs, IMO. My dogs love people, children, other animals (large and small).
One incident comes to mind about the type of dog labs can become. I was at a popular outdoors area near a reservoir. People bring their pets and children to play or sun or just relax in the nice, grassy area. I take my dogs there to swim in the summer. My black lab bolted after a toy that I threw but got distracted by a lone child sitting and reading. She turned and trotted up to the child and nuzzled his cheek. The child was startled and instantly my lab's tail went between her legs and she shrunk down, ears low. She was still curious and only backed away a little. The parents were about the same distance from there child as I was from the dog (about 5feet or so) and we all got there at about the same time. My lab already had the child calmed down and as I was apologizing to the parents, the kid was petting my dog.
So, WOW. How ferocious a breed, huh? Terrifying, torturous breed. I guess I should mention that my lab was about 8 months old at the time.

As to the death of this child, I hope the parents get what they deserve. They say that they left the child alone. What kind of parent leaves their child alone in another room unattended? I have nieces and nephews, I have dated women with youngsters, I have friends with children. The first few YEARS, they are never unattended (be is child care or with the parent), much less EVER in the first year. I blame the parents. I Blame the PARENTS! I BLAME THE PARENTS!
People ask what is wrong with the world today? Well, here it is in all its glory....Negligent Parenting!