I didn't watch the video. But from reading your post it just doesn't make sense. The baby was left alone. A black lab, which is a pretty good kind of dog to be around kids mauled the baby. And there were people in the next room that didn't know what was going on?

Originally posted by Blueracer
I didn't watch the video. But from reading your post it just doesn't make sense. The baby was left alone. A black lab, which is a pretty good kind of dog to be around kids mauled the baby. And there were people in the next room that didn't know what was going on?

Well on the video you see a good shot of the puppy being carried out of the house, a little 6-week-old lab. I always considered labs one of the gentlest dogs you could find.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Bombeni]

Something stinks! I have just read the article (didn't watch the vid) and none of it really makes sense. There are three adults in the house, at least, and none of them hear the child crying? The child must have been screaming its head off if the puppy was causing enough damage to kill the child yet NOBODY heard the cries. Nope, BS of the highest order! I am willing to bet that the one or both of the parents will be found to have caused the child's death. Disgraceful.

Originally posted by LovingSoul
Something stinks! I have just read the article (didn't watch the vid) and none of it really makes sense. There are three adults in the house, at least, and none of them hear the child crying? The child must have been screaming its head off if the puppy was causing enough damage to kill the child yet NOBODY heard the cries. Nope, BS of the highest order! I am willing to bet that the one or both of the parents will be found to have caused the child's death. Disgraceful.

Exactamundo. But get this, they already euthanized the puppy and it just happend yesterday. The grandmother was there w/ the parents. I mean how long would it take a 6-week-old pup to kill a baby? At least several minutes, yet no one heard anything, in the next room as they say? And WHY would they euthanize a puppy the same day? This is bizarre.

A better headline would be - Negligence kills baby.

Why blame a 6 month old puppy? Out of 3 parties involved, only two were even remotely innocent. Unfortunately, those 2 innocents are the two that will/have suffered the most through this ordeal.

The baby forfeited it's life and the puppy will surely forfeit it's own in return for negligence by adults in the very next room. The article implies that the evil puppy was to blame.

Lets try to focus on the true accountability here and deny ignorance.

"The parents were home. There were several people home, three people at the time of the incident, obviously that's part of the investigation to determine how this tragic event unfolded," said Tulsa Police Officer Jason Willingham.

Oh and this gem......

Police are not sure how the baby was killed without the parents realizing it was happening. Police say the child was unattended in a baby swing for an undetermined amount of time. They were questioning the child's grandmother, who was also in the home.

The puppy. No muzzle? no leash? carried out all placid? Right then. This stinks of BS.

Those in the house need a good talking to with mr baseball bat.

RIP Baby, hope you get justice. RIP Puppy, hope you get justice too.

6 week old puppy killing a baby?
The loss of a child can never be erased from memory but , surely a baby is never left unattended anyway, But the parents left it by itself?
Do me a favour... There's no way a puppy even when its at its most playful can kill a child without the parents hearing the commotion. The baby would have screamed as soon as the puppy nipped it , all kids do.
I reckon one the parents probably accidentally killed the child, then let the puppy play with the corpse . My moneys on Grandma. Older folk are prone toplaying a bit too rough i.e throwing the child up and down and catching it. ( thats not fare DW , we don't know what happened)(smacks own hand).
The puppy probably knew something was up when the child wasn't moving and tried to nip the babe to get it to wake up?
But to euthanise the pup on the same day is a bit too convenient for my liking. Besides a 6 week old puppy doesn't know any better. All it wants to do is play, and the babe is just that a playmate. .
My cousin when she was a babe (many years ago) , her parents had a boxer pup and all Cat did was smack and rough pet the boxer but the boxer just loved it ( it was play).
No dog/puppy in all the years I've had them have ever bitten out of malice any child.
Like I said all it will do is nip and the baby cries and wails, Nobody heard anything? Do me a favour....

Originally posted by Dan Tanna

"The parents were home. There were several people home, three people at the time of the incident, obviously that's part of the investigation to determine how this tragic event unfolded," said Tulsa Police Officer Jason Willingham.

Oh and this gem......

Police are not sure how the baby was killed without the parents realizing it was happening. Police say the child was unattended in a baby swing for an undetermined amount of time. They were questioning the child's grandmother, who was also in the home.

The puppy. No muzzle? no leash? carried out all placid? Right then. This stinks of BS.

Those in the house need a good talking to with mr baseball bat.

RIP Baby, hope you get justice. RIP Puppy, hope you get justice too.

Sticking to the BS warning. Look at the poor puppy dog. Thats not a killing machine, thats a baby black lab.

RIP Baby, RIP Puppy.

This is BS to the maxxxxxx(That exxxxxxxxtreme of BS)

A puppy? I doubt that. Would it have the jaw strength to do it?

Also, to your sig DW, old people do run around eating pills listening to electronic beeps. Sure its pills from a pharmacy and the beep is a heart monitor...

Something about this story stinks.

I raised a litter of rescued black lab/golden retriever puppies back in November and bottle fed them. They were born on Nov 14. I was with them 24/7 until they were 8 weeks old and were taken away by the rescue group to be adopted out in January. We kept one puppy.

I fed turkey necks as part of their diet because I am a supporter of raw feeding. And those pups had a hard enough time chewing on a raw turkey neck with their little puppy teeth.

I can hardly believe a 6 week old puppy would do such a thing.

First of all, they should have never gotten a puppy that was 6 weeks old. A true breeder would not let a puppy leave until it was at least 8 weeks old. They need the time for puppy mental development and socialization. 2 weeks doesn't sound like much from 6 to 8 weeks, but there's a big difference.

The only thing I can think of, the family purchased the puppy from a puppy mill, and probably a lot cheaper than through a licensed breeder. And if it came from a puppy mill, it did not have proper socialization and handling by humans. Someone should investigate where the puppy was purchased.

No pet should be left alone with a human baby anyway regardless of it's breed or size. Too many things can happen. Scratches, bumps, knocking over, etc. Both should always be supervised at ALL times. I blame the parent and other people in this situation.

A small pup would have to had worked on that baby for quite a while to maul it to death. Like I said, if I saw lab/golden mix puppies have a hard enough time with a raw turkey neck and end up mostly shredding it rather than cute little tooth holes, then the puppy would have had to been chewing on the baby for quite some time. And a child would cry in those circumstances.

And no one heard the child cry? Riiiiiiiight.

I say the baby was killed by something else (or someone) and left for the dog to nibble on to make it look like the puppy did it. There was also a pug in the house. The pug was probably big enough to sit on the baby and suffocate it.

Idiots.

According to the video, the child's mother is 17 years old. Red flag there. The baby was quite young as well. It is possible the child died of other causes and then was gnawed.

[edit on 7/29/2008 by Ceara]

I have little doubt that its true. My sister has a black lab and they left it my house for a weekend while it was about 6 weeks old.

It was as good natured as possible, BUT...it was an absolute chewing machine. The dog was a four-legged chainsaw. It would literally chew on ANYTHING and it did it ALL the time. It chewed on feet, shoes, chairs... it even chewed on a metal bedframe. You had to watch your toes around that dog; he definitely could draw blood. Again, he wasn't intending to hurt anyone, he just had an urge to chew all the time and those puppy teeth are like razorblades.

But the blame here lies with the parents, IMO. It would have taken that dog a while to inflict enough damage to be a fatal injury. I think they probably left it unattended for a while and the kid was certainly screaming the entire time.

Or worst yet, the child was unwanted and neglected from the beginning and the adults were used to have him scream all day from lack of attention.

That's horrible. I'm agreeing with you guys/girls that this whole story is BS.

Originally posted by vor78
I have little doubt that its true. My sister has a black lab and they left it my house for a weekend while it was about 6 weeks old.

It was as good natured as possible, BUT...it was an absolute chewing machine. The dog was a four-legged chainsaw. It would literally chew on ANYTHING and it did it ALL the time. It chewed on feet, shoes, chairs... it even chewed on a metal bedframe. You had to watch your toes around that dog; he definitely could draw blood. Again, he wasn't intending to hurt anyone, he just had an urge to chew all the time and those puppy teeth are like razorblades.

But the blame here lies with the parents, IMO. It would have taken that dog a while to inflict enough damage to be a fatal injury. I think they probably left it unattended for a while and the kid was certainly screaming the entire time.

Vor78 I can see a rambunctious puppy chewing like crazy, but do you think he would chew a baby as it surely screamed hysterically for several minutes? I guess the question is, who thinks this is reallypossible, that a 6 week old pup could chew a baby to death? It seems like the babies screams would put the puppy off? BTW they opened the puppy and have sent his stomach contents to OSBI for analysis. I'm sure you all really wanted to know that.