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Topic started on 28-7-2008 @ 08:30 PM by GD
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MCcain up by four (likely voters)

Interesting. The youth vote can be tricky, and Obama is relying on it. This poll was taken after the European tour, and it still shows McCain up. Remember- bad weather is a Republicans best friend, and likely voters vote in icestorms. Seems Obama better prey for sunshine...

In other words there are polls you pay attention to, and polls you don't. This is a poll you pay attention too, for all the reasons I mentioned above.

Is this the first visible crack in Obama's veneer, or just an anomoly? discuss amongst yourselves...

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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 08:51 PM by vor78
I'm not ready to celebrate just yet. The same polling organization (Gallup) has Obama up by 8 in their tracking poll. That's a slight decline from yesterday and may indicate that the bounce is dissipating, but still.

Rasmussen also shows the race tightening, however. Obama had a mere one point lead before the trip. They had him up 6 a couple of days ago just after the Berlin speech, but today? Just 3. They've also shown considerable closing in most of the battleground states in McCain's favor, as has Quinnipiac.

Even the New York Times is asking today
Where's the Bounce?

And finally, speaking of the youth vote, I saw another poll earlier today that indicated that there has been a significant dropoff in the number of 18-29 year olds AND Democrats overall who plan to vote this fall compared to earlier this year. Republicans had stayed the same (mid 80% range). I'm trying to find it and will add it when I do.

EDIT: Found it. The poll is from a few days before Obama's trip overseas, but is still recent enough to be valid and shows that Dem enthusiasm was sharply declining, at least prior to his 'world tour.' Specifically, 66% of 18-29 year olds said they were certain to vote in March. That's down to 46% as of mid July. Of course, that age bracket is by far his strongest. He usually ties or loses every other age group.

Poll

So is this poll indicating a McCain lead for real? I think its probably an outlier, especially given that Gallup's own tracking poll conflicts with it. However, and this is a big however....I think the overall data does indicate that something may be happening right now and the race may be turning away from Obama. We'll see.


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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:06 PM by vor78
Gallup's latest tracking poll is out. Obama led by 9 on Sunday, 8 yesterday. Today? He's down to 6. This follows the trend we're seeing from other polling outfits.

Gallup:Obama ahead 47-41%

As an update Rasmussen, as mentioned had Obama up 6 Sunday and 3% yesterday. He is up only 1% today when 'leaners' are included (4% otherwise).

Rasmussen: Obama ahead 47-46%

Looks like the 'bounce' is already evaporating.

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reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 04:27 PM by Dronetek
reply to post by AndrewTB



I want to make it clear on here that once the debates come around McCain will get a solid lead and move on to become president. I'm spreading the word because many people are locked in and some aren't even planning on watching the debates. But believe me a lot of Obama supporters will change their minds.


There is a reason Obama keeps turning down debate challenges by McCain. You're absolutely right though, Obama will get destroyed.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 06:25 PM by TheRepublic
reply to post by RRconservative



well im conservative and there is no way in hell im voting for juan mccain.
not that im voting for obama either, but im just saying most conservatives couldnt give two poops about mccain.
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