Originally posted by TheRepublic
what did the founding fathers do when they were taxed unfairly? they abstained from paying it. I think they would be proud of the spirit of protest
Oh yeah, that's right...And this tactic was even unanimously passed by our Founding Forefathers & recorded in the 1774
Journals of the Continental Congress
If money is wanted by Rulers who have in any manner oppressed the People, they may retain it until their grievances are redressed, and thus
peaceably procure relief, without trusting to despised petitions or disturbing the public tranquility.
Journals of the Continental Congress, 1:105-113
This was one of the solutions of the "taxation without representation" problem that the Founding Forefathers dealt with...And a good solution it
Of course, just as the Founding Forefathers were armed & had expected a "military-style" response from England, we must also be ready when our
currently-corrupted government responds the same way...Otherwise, withholding your money could prove problematic.
Currently, the Supreme Court has been "ruling" that, while the People have the Right to Petition
, via the 1st Amendment, the government has
no obligation to respond or acknowledge the petition at all...What a load of BS!
The Founding Forefathers wrote the Constitution in a manner such that, for everything included therein, there must exist an effective result
Therefore, the Right to issue Petitions must be also carry the effective result of the government's responsibility to respond & redress
Constitution is not merely a "guideline" or a matter of "public policy"...It's the Supreme Law of the Land & must be upheld as such.
Well, the tactic of withholding your tax-monies until your grievances are redressed is the enforcement mechanism we have to make sure the government
is held accountable...This was one of the primary purposes of this protest
(No Answers, No Taxes). In short, if the government doesn't listen to those whom they represent, we have the power to bankrupt them! Well, we can
bankrupt them once & for all...They've already declared bankruptcy once, which is why they let the Fed Res Act go into effect.
Since it seems that money is the only thing they listen to anymore, let's get their full attention
by denying it to them!
Withholding your vote means (to them) that you don't even want
to be heard...But withholding your money
! They'll listen to that!
Of course, you should check out some people who are already doing so, like the people at the last link I provided...At least you can learn how
they're doing it Lawfully
. Of course, the PTB will try to say that it's not "legal," but you must learn the difference between "legal" &
"lawful" or you won't have any defense from their corrupted courtrooms: One clue is that "Lawful" carries more weight than "Legal."
Originally posted by Gateway
There are no guarantees, the founding fathers did not guarantee that this country will remain as free as it once was, FOREVER. That's why they
believed in curtailing the power of the Federal Government, they believed that Government has an insatiable lust for more power...
And also why they made sure that the People would always have some way
to enforce those Constitutional limitations
"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people."--Thomas Jefferson
Everything in the Bill of Rights represents the fact that, no matter how hard the government tries, we can still exercise those Rights...And may even
to defend our Nation from our Government through the use of those Rights. In a nutshell, people must learn our Supreme Law &
what it means
& learn how our public servants
have betrayed us--Then determine to take action
to correct the problems created by
that betrayal. That's the key: Education & action.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
Originally posted by Gateway
In other words, you guys that want more WAR, more MORE GOVERNMENT go ahead be my guest and vote for the two shills that will be more than happy to
give that to you.
And this is precisely one of the biggest problems to be solved...We must reduce the size
of government & restrict them to remain within their
own limited scope of tasks
"History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is."--Thomas Jefferson
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."--Thomas Jefferson
And a possible result, if the People are successful...
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."--Thomas Jefferson.
Originally posted by Hal9000
We have 300 million people in this country now and many social services that rely on a stable government functioning. You remove that and we will be
far worse off.
And where in the Constitution does it give the feds any authority to create "social services?" The single most-abused phrase in the Constitution is
the "general welfare" clause in the Preamble...That was intended to let the government provide for the general welfare
on the Nation as a
whole...Not to provide "Social Security" or "Health Insurance" that reaches down to the level of individual Citizens! After all, most of those
so-called "services" aren't even needed, or they can be supported on the State level. This is how the Feds have grown too big & force a level of
dependence upon us that must be broken.
Originally posted by Hal9000
They did have a timetable in the last funding bill and Bush vetoed it. He promised to veto any bill that included a timetable.
And that's no excuse for Congress to stop trying...Anything bush vetoes, Congress can pass through again to override the veto
! By not doing
so, Congress is merely acting as Bush's accomplices while merely "going through the motions" to appear
as if they're opposing him: It's
become a matter of "good PR" to oppose Bush since Congress' ratings went so low. Smoke & mirrors, dude.