New Mystery Disease in China, is this the next big outbreak?, page 3
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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 08:35 PM by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by burdman30ott6
I think we're seeing the status quo for China. I personally feel like they've had frequent viral and other medical outbreaks for quite some time now. The difference is, with them just about to take the world's largest stage for a couple of weeks, something communist governments have a very tough time managing and manipulating has reared it's head: international scrutiny. Transparency and communism do not go hand in hand. (Actually transparency doesn't seem to hold hands with any government, but the more democratic governments have better learned how to filter information and break things gently vs more strict governments which only have experience squashing information outright.)

So while I share everyone's concerns and feel that these games have a certain bad mojo surrounding them, I don't believe that these issues we've seen lately in China have sprung up overnight.


hearsay from a close friend who spent two years there, but he says that some of the bio agents they test on their own people then burn down entire villages to cover it all up. humans are quite expendable there. yes. china has two faces...the one they're attempting to show the world next month, and the other very ugly one.

is it too soon to say don't fly if you don't have to and stay away from crowds?

maybe this ties into the september 8th topic...what's the incubation period. not trying to be funny...

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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 08:53 PM by MystikMushroom
Originally posted by Cyberbian
reply to
post by kattraxx





There is some truth to staying isolated during the pandemic.
Transfer through water is not to be ignored. I would boil all tap water.

Some people may develop resistance, or have delayed onset, so two weeks is not enough to ensure missing the wave. It comes in waves, and generally returns in a year or two to get those who missed the first wave.

Six weeks would be the best bet. Expect a lesser but significant bump at four weeks after the initial outbreak, where those who come out at two weeks, get infected and show symptoms two weeks later. The bumps get progressively smaller until about 3 months when the local spread burns itself out.

Some people should be expected to become carriers, having the disease, spreading it, but not having the symptoms. There is nothing you can do to protect yourself from that one, but it is rare.

Thyphoid Mary was such a carrier. Interestingly Thyphoid is a form of salmonilla.

Salmonilla is fairly innocuous and there have always been outbreaks. But recently it has gotten lots of attention. I wonder if we are not in a state of biological war and no one has bothered to inform the public, are they practicing their defensive moves, or do they believe we are being probed for vulnerability to a more effective form?

The three men in China all died the same day, were walking around until they turned red and bled out of every oriface of the head. That suggests a weaponized virus. Extremely fast acting. The incubation period would be less than 24 hours. Not the usual 2 weeks, if two of them were infected by human to human contact with the other. Otherwise the deaths on the same day was one hell of a coincidence.



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I agree, this smacks of weaponized for sure.

It makes no logical sense for a disease to kill off it's host so quickly. Part of the reason Ebola isn't really a "worry" (compared to say, AIDS) -- is that it kills the host before he/she has a chance to infect many others.

A "spray" or an artificial release of such a virulent bug is the only logical explaination IMO.

It would make no evolutionary sense for a virus or bacteria to kill off it's host before it could spread to more people and mutate.

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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 10:04 PM by nixie_nox
reply to post by kdial1



this was my thought. too much money wrapped up in the olympics to panic people away.

but you do have people from all over the world there, what a way to spread it.

anyone figure out how far this village is from the olympics yet?

why these things always seem to come from china?

its hot, its humid( a lot of it anyways) and heavily populated.

Just a big pitri dish.

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reply posted on 28-7-2008 @ 10:09 PM by Pocky
reply to post by kdial1



I'm already seeing some the Olympic medalist coming back home or being qurantined in China. They are gonna attempt to cause panic in the last weeks of this event. That is what they want people to do. They want them to watch and panic and just start feeling extremely scared again. So they can go on to their TV sets and get their eyes hooked on their for days, while they cover the disaster and then take advantage of your fears by adding in a bunch of other bull crap they wan't you to believe. They'll be promoting their anti-depressants.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 12:23 AM by runetang
reply to post by Pocky



Funny you should mention the olympics.

If there *is* something going around, I could totally see some people taking it back to multiple countries around the globe, spreading it! Think of all the spectators .. mixing groups of ethnic chinese from around the country with people from all around the globe. And then there's all of the athletes.. tons of air travel all around, and local sea travel from Japan/Korea and SE Asia too I bet. But .. so far, nothing big popping up in Hong Kong, which is a big mixing center. Expect any major pandemic to hit Hong Kong somewhere in its initial stage if it comes from Asia.


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 01:57 AM by burdman30ott6
reply to post by cyberdude78



Uh, as much as it pains me to say this (because damn the idea of surviving such a thing really sounds freaking cool to me for some reason) zombie viruses and the like are absolutely science fiction and are a physical impossibillity. A better comparison of this to a fictictious virus which could very well happen would probably be Captain Trips. In fact, the symptoms in the OP sound quite a bit like Captain Trips. I guess just be ready to choose between Vegas and Colorado if the SHTF and you find yourself a survivor.
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