New Mystery Disease in China, is this the next big outbreak?

OLYMPIC's = Global distribution .... scary.... please follow up on this story with regular updates... tks

Hmmm if this was 20 days ago what is that in terms of a virus reproduction/deployment lifecycle ....? Strikes me that the Genie is already out of the bottle!

Somebody post when the first mainstream media report on this story ...
or will it be 'suppressed' in the interest of public safety?

Anyone for Sweet'n'Sour Pork or a Chicken Tikka?

Great point, scary at the same time. I would hope if anyone in the Olympic village shows even the slightest symptom of this they all get the hell outta dodge.

reply to post by smurtall

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Have you seen the pictures of China on the news? There is so much pollution you can't even see the buildings. It will lower the immunity and that is why you see so many outbreaks there. Like sars.

#1 Pigs are disgusting, this is the one thing the religous fanatics of the world got right... from prion diseases, to bacterias to heart disease.. Pigs are the worst meat you could ever eat...

so stay away from pork...

#2 If this is "the end plauge" please keep your Video recorders handy during the olympics, because... The "end plauge" will be really rapid onset and if it's fast acting enough I would like to see some really radically footage...

like... an asian crowd that stands up to do the wave and people just start puking blood and dying as the wave crosses the auditorium in synch with it... that would be worth throwing in a time capsule for the aliens before it hits over here

or... a shot of a pole vaulter that looks fine upon jump turns purple crossing the top and just falls apart when he hits the ground...

or... this would be rad... the swim team goes flesh eaten half way across the pool and the cameras catch the spread of blood across the pool until the whole thing turns bright red


serious camera ops here


okay... sorry, I read too many horror books... that was disgusting...

seriously none of that will happen just stay the heck away from pork.

im wondering if the earth quake there wrecked a bio-warfare lab and not just a military base....

I think we're seeing the status quo for China. I personally feel like they've had frequent viral and other medical outbreaks for quite some time now. The difference is, with them just about to take the world's largest stage for a couple of weeks, something communist governments have a very tough time managing and manipulating has reared it's head: international scrutiny. Transparency and communism do not go hand in hand. (Actually transparency doesn't seem to hold hands with any government, but the more democratic governments have better learned how to filter information and break things gently vs more strict governments which only have experience squashing information outright.)

So while I share everyone's concerns and feel that these games have a certain bad mojo surrounding them, I don't believe that these issues we've seen lately in China have sprung up overnight.

That's a very interesting idea. And quite terrifying as well. With 1.3 billion people at their disposal a couple peasants as test subjects here and there wouldn't make much of a difference to them.

I think we all hafto ask ourselves is...What happens when it reaches your hood? Because it is on the Yellow Sea...major migratory bird stopover.

It might just add to the already sky high list of reasons the current establishment will crumble over the next few years. Then they'll just set up a prisonlike system where we are given the choice but never leave our cell because we're afraid of the percieved implications of such a choice and have been so dependant on the society anyway. Fear has been nothing but a creation of the mind, and government, to use corporation to enslave you.

We are too grounded and the ones that survive whatever plague there is to come will probably surrender all their freedom in the fear generated.

The system is a lot like Eden, if you eat from the forbidden tree of knowledge, you'll be kicked out. Or rather, you'll be damn smart enough to leave.


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reply to post by billyjoinedat2k8

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um obama is more interesting. Isn't he the new one for us all. The one who will lead us to pure marxist. LOL. Well there's your answer, the people who report the news, are more intersted in Obama, than real news that is taking place in China.

I bought a rife machine a long time ago. Since I bought it I have cured a few cancers and other diseases with it. So one new bug comes out and I am not worried about me and mine. I hollar from the roof tops about the rife machine but few ever listin to me. anyways

I will be safe from this bug. But what about the olympics. how far is the olympics village from the outbreak?

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That's some scary shiz fo sho.

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wow - the Olympic link here is kinda scary...

and how bout this?

youtube.com...

According to the master of fear-based journalism, Alex Jones, a company in the states has manufactured 500,000 plastic coffins....

Do they know something?

Is THIS the outbreak the coffins are waiting for?

Is it just me or does it seem like all these new diseases and strains of diseases coming out of nowhere are a bit odd? You think the governments of the world might be trying some new stuff?

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There is some truth to staying isolated during the pandemic.
Transfer through water is not to be ignored. I would boil all tap water.

Some people may develop resistance, or have delayed onset, so two weeks is not enough to ensure missing the wave. It comes in waves, and generally returns in a year or two to get those who missed the first wave.

Six weeks would be the best bet. Expect a lesser but significant bump at four weeks after the initial outbreak, where those who come out at two weeks, get infected and show symptoms two weeks later. The bumps get progressively smaller until about 3 months when the local spread burns itself out.

Some people should be expected to become carriers, having the disease, spreading it, but not having the symptoms. There is nothing you can do to protect yourself from that one, but it is rare.

Thyphoid Mary was such a carrier. Interestingly Thyphoid is a form of salmonilla.

Salmonilla is fairly innocuous and there have always been outbreaks. But recently it has gotten lots of attention. I wonder if we are not in a state of biological war and no one has bothered to inform the public, are they practicing their defensive moves, or do they believe we are being probed for vulnerability to a more effective form?

The three men in China all died the same day, were walking around until they turned red and bled out of every oriface of the head. That suggests a weaponized virus. Extremely fast acting. The incubation period would be less than 24 hours. Not the usual 2 weeks, if two of them were infected by human to human contact with the other. Otherwise the deaths on the same day was one hell of a coincidence.



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Further research on the site suggests that it is H5N1 and it is mutating now from person to person. Its only really a matter of time before it gets wild. The same like the pandemic of 1918. This is going to be really nasty folks. Really nasty.

There was an article I found in google news which stated that the mutation rate always climbs prior to a pandemic. The genetics company which made the statement, did tests which showed the rate of mutation to be indicative that the pandemic is already underway.

I had an absolutely CRAZY INSANO idea!

If you wanted to infect the world population with something like this, START AN OUTBREAK AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES!!! This way everybody from all over the world would be infected and carry the virus back to their home country.

It's so crazy it just might happen. Here's hoping (it doesn't).

reply to post by Lucidliving

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Yeah, that's a nasty idea. I read a novel a few years back that hinged on that premise. Maybe it was a Tom Clancy novel, I forget.

The idea's certainly out there.