One third of 'british Muslim' students say killing for islam is ok., page 1
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Topic started on 27-7-2008 @ 10:30 AM by Dan Tanna

Almost one third of British Muslim students think it is acceptable to kill in the name of Islam, results of a poll show.
The findings shed light on the extent of campus radicalism and will raise concerns about extremism across British Universities.
The YouGov poll for the Centre for Social Cohesion also found that two in five Muslims at university support the idea of Islamic sharia codes being enshrined in British law, the Sunday Times has reported.
One of the report authors Han-nah Stuart said the study's findings came as an embarrassing blow to those who play down the threat of extremism within Britain's campuses.



Daily mail

So much for 'intergration' and 'peace loving muslims'. That just blew their cover right off. One third say killing in the name of islam is ok. Peachy, just wonderful. The koran has a long list of people these nutters are 'allowed' to kill...

Seems like our western tolerance really will be our downfall.

This next little peach says it all really. These spoilt western raised muslims have no idea how free and easy they have it here in the west. If they did, they wouldn't think this....


Some of the findings support previous research. A report by Policy Exchange last year found that 37 per cent of all Muslims aged 16-24 would prefer to live under a sharia system.


Madness. History repeats. Fall of Rome MKII any one?


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 10:43 AM by Dan Tanna
reply to post by caitlinfae




Agree 100%.

State and religion should be so far apart as to be polar opposites. What goes on in your home is your business. What goes into law and on the streets is the Governments business.



reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 10:47 AM by shuck
reply to post by Dan Tanna



Funny ...I have been thinking about Isalm...The Fifth Column......

I looked up " The fifth column " on Wiki and it gives a good description....

The rise of Islam in western countries and how our sytems are used for thier agendas really does seem to apply.....

Thats my opinion anyway!!...


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Dan Tanna
reply to post by rexpop




If the information is invalid I am sure some islamist group will sue for slander then. However, the paper cannot just 'pluck' figures from the air - there was a survey, they did answer, and the papers are providing those figures to be seen by the masses.


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 01:41 PM by shuck
reply to post by Dan Tanna




Personaly I think people are sleep walking into an opressive regime..

In the UK I travel about a lot...I visit so many areas...I can se whats going on on the ground and listen to what is being said!!

But people are deaf and blind I think...they never project a scenario forward...sharia law in the UK....given time numbers and influence...it will be a reality...

Some students that we educate...have thier cultural religious agendas!!...the fifth column!!

My beliefs are Pagan...god is manifest in anything that grows and is free!!free to think learn and change..thats what has brought us so far......we can question.....these students may be very good academicaly...but they have a cultural agenda.....educated and can use our sense of fairness and educated enoughto use the legal system!!,,,the fifth column!! Sharia law ...welcome to the dark ages of human consciousness and learning...

The western world as bad as some are .....cannot afford to let this mentality flourish!! ..at least in our laws there is some room for compassion!!


My gods don't ask me to submit!! ...just seems people are sleep walking into submission and restriction from any direction!!

Remember ..give me enough numbers. educate me and let me see your weaknesses...I will conquer!!

My opinion only, its really not important,,things are going to the plan I am sure!!!

And I don't give a monkeys what colour anyone is or where they come from ....Just my point of view ..from what I have seen and experienced!!
sitting on the fence!!


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 03:00 PM by caitlinfae
Amatrine, Shuck and Dan...some excellent points made here...and would Christians kill for Jesus...?

Would they *want* to? Would pagans kill? Jews? Buddhists? I doubt it, no matter how fundamental their beliefs, although I recognise that there are always exception. Either way...no religion or spiritual belief can be taken into law without disasterous consequences for our human rights and civil liberites. Shucks point about us sleepwalking into this has to be taken as a wakeup call, as this is what will happen if we're not vigilant. Suddenly we will wake up with it as a reality.

I MUST stress....this is *not* anti Muslim sentiment here....anti-fundamentalist-of-any-religion perhaps, and I would be as fired up if we were talking about imposing Jewish or Pagan Law, even although the latter is my own.

I feel that this must be approached from a human point of view and not a geographical or cultural one....we all have responsibility for our own connection to the Divine, however that manifests, or not as the case may be for the individual....it is no-one else's business how we relate to God...especially not the Governments, and not followers of another belief system. What we must observe, however, to level the playing field, are basic human rights, including the right to religious and spiritual freedom. I'm trying hard not to impose my own ethics here, but I will not EVER submit to having another human tell me how my spiritual life has to be. I know Sharia Law encompasses more than just religion, but we cannot even take one step down the road of introducing any of it.

I know there has been talk of Sharia Law being introduced in part in the UK, but I was wondering if anyone knew which sections of it were under discussion? Was it just divorce law, or was there more?


Cait


reply posted on 27-7-2008 @ 05:48 PM by Terran Blue
reply to post by Dan Tanna



Establishing a motive for the unwitting reader Dan

Its not always WHAT is being said its WHO is saying it as well.
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