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Matthews: “Did you see FOX television as a tool when you were in the White House? As a useful avenue to get your message out?”
McClellan: “I make a distinction between the journalists and the commentators. Certainly there were commentators and other, pundits at FOX News, that were useful to the White House.” […] That was something we at the White House, yes, were doing, getting them talkng points and making sure they knew where we were coming from.
Matthews: “So you were using these commentators as your spokespeople.”
McClellan: “Well, certainly.”
Originally posted by Copernicus
And the sky is blue!
Im glad you are happy about seeing someone speak the truth in the media, but this is actually something that has been very obvious for like 10 years now..
You can watch Outfoxed if you like, its pretty good.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by Copernicus]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Copernicus
Outfoxed was made, funded, and produced by known DNC Propagandists. They don't even bother hiding it, the Media Matters Director is in the first 5 minutes - a group specifically funded by the DNC to discredit fox news.
Fox News is Republican, but its no more right wing than CNN/CBS/ABC/MSNBC are left wing and shills for the Democrat party.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Copernicus
Nah, obviously not since the DNC has to fund massive shell groups and the mass DNC media has to work together to produce propaganda documentaries about it.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Copernicus
Outfoxed was made, funded, and produced by known DNC Propagandists. They don't even bother hiding it, the Media Matters Director is in the first 5 minutes - a group specifically funded by the DNC to discredit fox news. Hell, the mass media even brought in some of their shills because they are pissed that Fox News continues to be so successful. Its a propaganda piece, but as usual, on ATS users embrace and love the propaganda when it fits their narrow worldview.
Fox News is Republican, but its no more right wing than CNN/CBS/ABC/MSNBC are left wing and shills for the Democrat party.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by solo1
CIA operatives are the news casters in America. The reason I claim this is that they do not only have an agenda to feed you the Presidents talking points but they also deliberately cover up and when a story is hot that they dont want you to see they fill the airwaves with smut talk about britney and the reat of the dead headed American idols
If it isn't on the propaganda agenda Americans do not see it period.
unless they get it from the internet which is also filled with propaganda and miss information.
after the uprising in America in the 60's News was taken away from the American public.
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
Wrong again. When you actually study the data, fox news comes out as being the most balanced network. The data does not lie, but I have no doubt the DNC propagandists on ATS will ignore it: www.cmpa.com...
What this doesn't mean is that Fox is completely unbiased, its indeed conservative. However, when looking at magnitudes of bias the democrat bias by all other major networks is shockingly high. The DNC media knows this, which is why they fund hit jobs like Outfoxed.
The facts do not lie, but the ATS democrats will nonetheless ignore the facts because they prefer to believe in the propaganda the DNC media feeds them.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Copernicus
Oh my goodness, you have got to be kidding me. The government is not conservative run. It is run by republicans and democrats. The republicans use Fox News, the democrats use ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC/NBC.
It is the DNC run networks whose job it is to scare people. Don't you see it? Every day now - as it is with every election season - its utter doom and gloom, every piece of news is bad and all the good news is ignored. The DNC media has been trying to recreate the Vietnam error and be trendy and anti-war since the word "war with Iraq" was first mentioned, and are vehemently against any military conflict with Iran.
No, Fox News is not fair. Neither is any other news network. Yes, Fox says its fair. So does every other network. All media lies, and all media is in the pocket of a political party.
These are the facts. Wake up!
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
Wrong again. When you actually study the data, fox news comes out as being the most balanced network. The data does not lie, but I have no doubt the DNC propagandists on ATS will ignore it: www.cmpa.com...
What this doesn't mean is that Fox is completely unbiased, its indeed conservative. However, when looking at magnitudes of bias the democrat bias by all other major networks is shockingly high. The DNC media knows this, which is why they fund hit jobs like Outfoxed.
The facts do not lie, but the ATS democrats will nonetheless ignore the facts because they prefer to believe in the propaganda the DNC media feeds them.
Here are the facts: Fox News is the only major network that is a shill for the RNC. Every other news network has been bought and paid for by the DNC. In magnitudes of bias, Fox News is less biased - and the data shows it - than its DNC shill counterparts. Those are the facts. There is no need to foam at the mouth that the RNC has 1 network in its pocket when the DNC has the rest of them.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
reply to post by Copernicus
The DNC media has been trying to recreate the Vietnam error and be trendy and anti-war since the word "war with Iraq" was first mentioned, and are vehemently against any military conflict with Iran.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]
Originally posted by ALightinDarkness
Yes yes, thats lovely. Being anti-war is trendy and the media has successfully programmed you to be anti-war. Its the cool thing to do, it makes people feel intellectual. You going "do you realize people are dying" makes me question if you've even done 5 minutes of research (besides the mass media programming) on the war. Do you realize that more people die in two years from alcoholism than the entirety of deaths that have occurred since the Iraq war? Your not any sort of great humanitarian for being against the war.
There are plenty of things that are far more deadly, why no outrage and protests over those? For that matter, there are plenty of other conflicts going on right now that have cost more in lives. But those conflicts were not started by Bush, so the media has not programmed you to be self-righteously against them.
As the liberal media (everyone but fox) has been programming you to hate everything George Bush does, it is no surprise that you hate the war. I was against the war before it was trendy, but alas, now the anti-war crowd is gone so fringe that it is no longer taken seriously. Serious foreign policy discussions about war spending has devolved into "OMG OMG BUSH IS EVIL IMPEACH HANG DEATH OMG OMG OMG!"
Also, the government has more than just the white house. You have a democrat congress. Who are spinning themselves through ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC. Why no outrage over that?
Read my above posts. I have already stated my position. Scott was dismissed, he was ineffective. He got sour grapes over it. Scott McClellan recognized a profit opportunity, and took it. He'll say whatever he can to sell more books and get revenge. Backstabbing in politics is quite normal. He's been welcomed with open arms into the DNC, whom he'll probably also back stab the next time he gets fired.
Take off those partisan glasses, and see the facts. Wake up!
[edit on 27-7-2008 by ALightinDarkness]