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Originally posted by riggs2099
reply to post by TheBottomLine
If you believe than aren't you saying it's fact. Or what does believe to you mean.
Believe - accept as true; take to be true
True - consistent with fact or reality; not false; "the story is true"; "it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for
[edit on 27-7-2008 by riggs2099]
A lot of these pics have been proven to be fake. Nice one..
If those are then so is this one...
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
reply to post by riggs2099
A lot of these pics have been proven to be fake. Nice one..
If those are then so is this one...
Easy to write in words, please show us the evidence?
Sure there are many fakes out there but not all, alot of what I use is for illustration but please back up what you write.
Originally posted by riggs2099
reply to post by TheBottomLine
What dictionary are you reading from? And what defintions are you using those for.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by riggs2099]
Originally posted by polomontana
You say that you know or think that extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional beings can't or don't exist, are you saying that the eyewitness to an event can't know these things either?
Are you limiting another person's sphere of knowledge based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?
Example: If a high ranking government official comes out and says he has first hand knowledge that these things exist, do you limit what he/she can know based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?
If a person you know to be credible comes to you and says they were visited by these beings and this person has never been known to make up stories, do you say these things could not have happened based on your personal belief about these issues? Are you saying that your friend couldn't know and experience these things based on what you believe?
If so, how is this logical? Are you saying that nobody can know about these things because you believe these things don't or can't exist?
If you are, then you are limiting others sphere of knowledge based on what you believe about these issues.
Originally posted by riggs2099
reply to post by optimus primal
Finally someone who knows where I am coming from. I want to believe but to me there is nothing to it. As for other intelligent life elsewhere...that one should be true, it would be arrogant to believe otherwise. I just don't feel there is other tangible evidence to support that they are for sure. There are some good cases that make me think..but not enough to say yes and believe from there.
Originally posted by riggs2099
Speaking of high ranking officials testimony being used as the holy grail of testimony...Lest we forget those that have not been so truthful. The is Clinton..I never had sexual relations wit that girl...George Bush...we know there are weapons of mass destruction.....And plenty more. These are some of the highest officials out there.... so if they can B.S. us than so can others. No ones testimony should ever be considered the best out there as high ranking officials lie like everyone else. BUT NOT THE ONES YOU TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THEY GO ALONG WITH EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVE....RIGHT
Originally posted by riggs2099
reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens
This is one great possibilty that I am willing to believe after all be kind of arrogant to think otherwise...just no proof that tyhey have come here.
True..but so it can go both ways...will you give that theory a shot or does it not fall into what you believe?
If these creatures exist why have they just recently shown up in the past few decades?"
Ummm not really an answer just a way of avoiding the question
Direct is what I need...circumstantial is basically saying they could be here which turns into theory and not fact.
circumstantial - strongly suggesting something but not proving it + Of no primary significance; incidental. + Of, relating to, or dependent on circumstances. JUST THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT.
"Find out how many believers have said it was a fact. Also find out how many have not said it was a fact and present the percentages with supporting data to us"
I would do this but too much time and effort...Let's say you fall into that category
"If these creatures exist why have they just recently shown up in the past few decades?"