Originally posted by polomontana
You say that you know or think that extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional beings can't or don't exist, are you saying that the eyewitness to an event
can't know these things either?
I'm saying that I don't know if these things can't or don't exist, only that I and a lot of other people have not been presented with enough
positive, testable evidence to prove it.
Are you limiting another person's sphere of knowledge based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?
No, I'm limiting my acceptance of something as fact (or not) to the evidence I've been shown.
Example: If a high ranking government official comes out and says he has first hand knowledge that these things exist, do you limit what he/she
can know based on your pre-existing belief on these issues?
Nope. I'll limit my belief in what that person is able to offer in the way of solid proof that can be independently verified. I would tend to give
a little more weight to a statement made by the President, but I would still need him to produce the goods.
If a person you know to be credible comes to you and says they were visited by these beings and this person has never been known to make up
stories, do you say these things could not have happened based on your personal belief about these issues? Are you saying that your friend couldn't
know and experience these things based on what you believe?
I would want to hear everything this person has to say, but I would also need them to show me some tangible evidence leading to proof of their claims.
People, even honest people, have been known to be mistaken, or have brain tumors. I would feel bad if they couldn't produce the evidence, but I
wouldn't automatically assume what they told me was entirely true.
If so, how is this logical? Are you saying that nobody can know about these things because you believe these things don't or can't
I think I've answered that question above. Whether these things exist or not has nothing to do with anyone's belief -- theirs or mine. It has to
do with good, testable, verifiable evidence that proves the contention.
If you are, then you are limiting others sphere of knowledge based on what you believe about these issues.
Well, good. Fortunately for me, I'm not doing that. And I think I've managed to answer those questions well enough, although I may not be the kind
of "skeptic" you're looking for. I'm actually a tougher nut to crack than those guys. I'm somebody with an open mind who is just waiting for
somebody to show me some decent, unimpeachable proof of something... anything
! But it's gotta be pretty damned good proof.
At this point, we have a surprising amount of evidence, but of what? Aliens? Time travelers? Something else completely? It's quite the puzzle.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by Nohup]