Is Harry Potter Initiating Children Into Magic, Wicca, Witchcraft & Satanism?

The video in the article posted below claims that the Harry Potter series of books and movies is leading our children into things such as sorcery, curses, black magic, demon possession, witchcraft and satanism:

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What is your opinion about the material the video presents? Should we let our kids read and watch Harry Potter?

reply to post by MandM


because all those are have been proven real and to work

how many sorcerists are around now a days to teach these kids

if anything its imagination

i grew up in the early 80's and none of those movies or cartoons influenced me to be anything

like Im not trying to go to jedi training school or be a loser in the breakfast club, or kill people in their dreams like freddie

people are so sensitive now a days

its like we are reverting back to the days of condemning anyone whose view is not of our own, will we ever grow as humanity

what a web we weave

Oh Pa- shaw!

I have bought my kids a bunch of Harry Potter stuff, games, wands, costumes you name it, and not one one negative experience have I seen from them. It is actually very fun to play the whole set of movies.

I am usually several charactures during their game. We even fly on broom sticks and play Qiditch.

Very fun, not at all evil, as a matter of fact the only thing that I have seen evil about the whole H.P. craze is how the Christians have behaved about it.

reply to post by MandM


Every time someone starts the 'Harry Potter encourages Satanism whatever', the books sales go up - don't you get it?

So what if it did encourage an interest in Witchcraft, and/or Wicca etc. they aren't inherently evil you know. While you're at it maybe you should ban the Narnia books for their pro Christian stance?

Learn the lesson well - it is the banning of books themselves that is evil.

What do you suggest? That we get rid of everything but the bible?

If you have some time on your hands, and you sound like you do, why don’t you find out about that other evil movie/book adaptation for children that Christians are protesting about?

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funny you say that, my aunt is hard core christian and she, of all people bought a HP book just to take to a burning of the books firing

it was so hilarious, funding the author just to say hey i dont like it

i dont see the arguement there, she should have stolen the book and burned it

but then again stealing is a commandment not to do

so either way she paid, hmmmm


why doesnt anyone complain about star trek, or star wars or anything else that isnt of standard blah living

its upto the parents to educate their kids on what is real and movie

its up to the children at some point to decipher it themselves

we cant just say this is bad and evil and wrong cause it doesnt go with others view

we are all people, we are all different

or we could just ban the bible and keep everything else? haha

It probably is leading them into it... and you know why? Harry Potter is a symbol.. just like superman or batman or whoever. It's so much more exciting than reality that it gives kids something to escape into and witchcraft and all that is the closest thing to being Harry Potter that they can get there hands on..

Originally posted by JustLikeSuperman
or we could just ban the bible and keep everything else? haha

It probably is leading them into it... and you know why? Harry Potter is a symbol.. just like superman or batman or whoever. It's so much more exciting than reality that it gives kids something to escape into and witchcraft and all that is the closest thing to being Harry Potter that they can get there hands on..

ok what bible though

the jews have the old testament, christians have old and new testament

theres the Quran, and others

not really the solution, people should be able to pick and choose

its called choice and is a human right everyone deserves

reply to post by MandM


Oh Geez, another scared book burner. I have and will continue to have my children read every Harry Potter book as many times as they can... It was an incredible series about life's major dichotomies, love and hate... good and evil...

Such scared creatures.

Hey, MurderCityDevil, do you listen to ETF by chance? Just curious cause your last line in your post was like, direct lines from one of their songs by the same name

I think it's pretty idiotic that this is even suggested. Why not hate on other authors? The author of the Twilight series for putting the idea of Perfect guys and vampirism into the hearts and minds of females (and males) everywhere. (i say males cause i know one too many guys using these books as a handy guide on how a "real" guy should act) Or what about all these damn zombie movies/books/games/etc having people wish and desire a worst case senario. Anything can be seen as bad, Harry Potter is no different, but these are only intricate stories written to influence the expansion of ones imagination and help build a childs dreams of achieving the unattainable, and nothing more

what a hilarious topic.

Too bad Magic, Wicca, Witchcraft, Sorcery etc is all make believe!
Fiction! False! Nonexistant!

Show me a flying broom and Ill retract my statement

I don't really like the books, but would fight to the death to defend the writer's right to print them. I remember back when the fist book came out. the local papers were full of HP bashing, and heavy Christian slant of every piece. So I rented the movie, and watched it all, along with the rest when they came along. I wrote several editorials to the two papers, but never got published, or even mentioned.

There is nothing of what I know as true Magick in there, and no one can tell me different. the reason the children are so into it is it represents a different idea.
And see that's the point right there. Follow along here....most People, have a Belief System of some kind, and IMHO, religions are just like cults, or maybe they are cults.

Free Thinkers do not have "beliefs." what they have is IDEAS. Ideas can be changed when new information comes to bear, and beliefs can never be changed. Do you all get my point here?
Children are hungry for something NEW, and Exiting in their lives, and stale religions are failing to provide that. I too was drawn into the Craft, but a long time ago, and not by any book or movie, but by my Great Grand Mother. And, after all, even though I am 54, I am still after something new and exiting!

Originally posted by muzzleflash
what a hilarious topic.

Too bad Magic, Wicca, Witchcraft, Sorcery etc is all make believe!
Fiction! False! Nonexistant!

Show me a flying broom and Ill retract my statement

Wicca is real, flying on brooms is not. Wicca is a religion and their spells, as most Wiccans will tell you, are basically just prayers with props. Pagan religions are some of, if not the, oldest religions- please don't mock them. It is simply a different path than the one you have apparently chosen.

In a word: No. Harry Potter is a great series because all children can enjoy it and it does not focus on any type of religion in the books that would turn off readers of other religions. I think it is a very well written series although I don’t revere it as the masterpiece some claim it to be.

The thing I find funny is that when my parents were a kid, it was D&D that was turning kids to the devil, then when I was in junior high I told my parents I was playing magic the gathering and they were like well you should be carefull, that dabels in magic and the dark arts.

Everyone wants a scapegoat and wants to hate something for stupid reasons.
Ive never read the books, but if my kid that I might have one day wants to read them then more power too him. AND lets say he deos learn magic from it SOMEHOW, atleast he/she hopefully has good role models from the good guys.

No more than the fairytales of Hans Christian Andersen do, or, come to that, the bible..

I mean, seriously, at least in Harry Potter there's no actual Necromancy..

When I read the first harry potter book, I convered to satinism and began praying to the dark lord(satin),listing to rock and roll, whaching a lot of porn and sacrficing small anamales. Nothing big just my dog and my naybors cat, oh yeah and some goats.

Then when after I read the next book. I strated sacrficing un babtised babis, stealing from collention plates and the from that bread plate thing. I also got gay married to some guy who worked in an abrotions cinlnik but thats a diffrent story.

By the time I was finshed with the third book, I was sacraficing virgins, bruing down chruches. Beating puppys with flaming bags full of kittens. It was a good time.

Wow, am I off topic. If you want your kid to end up like me, you should let them read harry potter.

The fundamentalist Christian opposition to Harry Potter is based on the fact that once you let children start reading something they like, they won't stop reading.

The HP series has been acknowledged as introducing many children to books, children that would otherwise never pick up a book.

This scares religious fundamentalists. Fundamentally.

The books in themselves are harmless fantasy. There's been hundreds of books like it since the fecking press was invented.

Fundies don't like it because it encourages children to read for the sake of reading. They'll finish reading HP, and they'll want to read something else, because they enjoyed the experience of reading a fantasy story.

That's scary for those that want to control their childs mind 24/7. If the child is allowed to read what it wants, it might read books that contradict dogma.. the child might even form a mind and opinion of its own...


[edit on 27-7-2008 by kegs]

alright you fanatical christian conspiracy theorist, harry potter is NOT FROM THE DEVIL! it is not recruiting our children to the occult. there is nothing wrong with wicca or any religion you view as "satanic". it is not your place to say that the people who are pagans, wiccans etc. are evil (though i am christian). unfortunately you are closed minded on this and many other topics i'm sure. i have read all the harry potter books and enjoyed them. i also never had the slightest urge to go and find my local wicca coven. you also took the opinions of nine and ten year olds saying they want to go to wizard school and learn magic, well, i know when i was nine years old i wanted to have the powers of spider man and the flash, oh, and because the flash's emblem is a lightning bolt he's a super fast bat outta hell huh? you seriously need to have an open mind about these kind of things which religion people choose is their decision and you have no right to tell them they're wrong or going to hell for it.

The author's knowledge of folklore and mythology is outstanding. Nearly every character, creature, plant of tail is based on an existing myth or legend or geniune occult figure, some of them very obscure.

There isn't much of actual magic though, I doubt very much that some one could be initiated into anything by reading HP. The only thing the books encourage children to do is read more (and buy copious amounts of expensive merchandise).

Many Christians I know don't object to HP at all. Unlike many other kids books it's not full of family breakdown, drugs, unplanned pregnancies, scare-mongering and negativity. The books are very positive and generally represent conservative and wholesome values.

Those that do must be afraid that if their children are exposed to something alternative then it will threaten their Christian faith.

there was one real problem with the HP merchandise, a while back they came out with a broom stick that vibrated... not to many happy with that idea...

[edit on 28-7-2008 by scorand]