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The Risk of Obama Rapture




Topic started on 25-7-2008 @ 11:29 AM by centurion1211


The Risk of Obama Rapture


www.msnbc.msn.com

Barack Obama's weeklong foreign tour has gone so well for him that the only risk left is a rapturous reception in Europe. At least his critics are hoping to use such a response against him.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:29 AM by centurion1211


This article points out a major issue that a lot of people have with Obama and his supporters. The man hasn't been around long enough to have a political track record. No one knows where he really stands on the issues because he says something different on the same issue each time he speaks (aka pandering).

This reprises an argument that Republicans deployed against Democratic nominee John Kerry in 2004. At the GOP National Convention, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani mocked Kerry's claim that he had more support from foreign leaders than Bush did. "To me," Giuliani insisted, "that raises the risk that he might well accommodate his position to their viewpoint." Vice President Cheney, charging from the opposite direction, argued that Bush's international unpopularity demonstrated his determination to stand up for America. "George W. Bush," Cheney thundered, "will never seek a permission slip to defend the American people." The bottom-line message: The more support a candidate inspires abroad, the less Americans can trust him to defend their own national interests.


But that doesn't stop Democrats and now foreigners from falling in love with him like he was some rock star, or some charismatic preacher at a tent revival meeting.

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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:35 AM by xy234786


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Indeed this is suspicious, but we also must recognize that he has a family. If he were do to something against the United States, why does he have a family?



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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:41 AM by centurion1211


Originally posted by xy234786
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Indeed this is suspicious, but we also must recognize that he has a family. If he were do to something against the United States, why does he have a family?


Could you elaborate on that a little more? Not sure of your meaning and its relationship to the thread.

Thanks.




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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:42 AM by buddhasystem


What kind of twisted logic is that? To be a good American, one must be hated abroad? What nonsense...



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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:55 AM by projectvxn


John McCain also campaigned for support abroad during the Democratic Primaries. Stories like this are campaign directors from both sides throwing the same stone back at each other. Nothing of substance here.

I thought Americans wanted to not be hated abroad anymore? Isn't that why McCain and Obama both went overseas?

Or is it because the first black presidential candidate in history with a good chance of winning the election is a part of history, and it is getting the coverage one would expect? Sounds to me like the McCain camp is struggling to find it's media niche. Even so, Obama still has alot to prove to America. McCain has already proven to be a bad choice, however should Obama paint himself as "bad for America" to the American people, then you'd have again what we had in 04' the choice between dog poop or douche bag(These terms are interchangeable between those candidates).

So far this race hasn't shaped up the way it did in 04' and hopefully it won't, but this is politics in America, and dumb things always get sensationalized in a time when we need to actually fix real world problems.



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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 12:02 PM by Grafilthy



Conflict of interest watch: Ron Brownstein

The personal lives of journalists are none of my business -- except when they involve the public figures whom the journalists cover. A case in point is NBC's Andrea Mitchell, who frequently comments on matters involving the Federal Reserve without disclosing that her husband is Fed chairman Alan Greenspan. It's inappropriate.

So I was dismayed to discover today that Ron Brownstein, one of the best political journalists in the business, just got married to Eileen McMenamin, John McCain's communications director. According to the Times blurb and a report by the Washington Post's Al Kamen, McMenamin left CNN to take the job in February.

Here's the problem -- Brownstein wrote a column on April 25 that unrealistically touted McCain as a third party presidential candidate:



Watch yer sources...
"Journalists" sometimes have hidden agendas.



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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 12:05 PM by MurderCityDevil


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having little or no experience is no way to tell if someone is capable of a job

granted this is a huge job, some people are just able to cope and do things

maybe he is one who can

alot of people are enchanted by his talk and wanting change, if poss he can do it, im all for it

could he do worse than bush? lol



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