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If UFO’s are so advanced then why do they seem to be crashing all over the world?

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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:24 AM
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We have reports and threads of ufo crashes dating back to the 40’s [Roswell] till recent times. If ufo’s are advance aliens visiting Earth in these Advanced flying spaceships then why do they seem to crash frequently?

Is our militaries around the world advanced enough to shoot them down or could it be our magnetic field has some adverse effect on them? Could it be some atmospheric condition? What could be the reason?

Picture of UFO crash from the late 40s
Possible UFO crash off NJ coast
Wales UFO Crash
Vietnam UFO crash survivors
Kinross Ufo crash..could it still be there??
UFO Crash Lands in School Field (Wih Pic)
- A UFO CRASH CLOSE TO PINE-GAP BASE, AUSTRALIA :
UFO Crash Caught on Video in New Mexico
1897-UFO Crash at Aurora, Texas
UFO crash in Bolivia, outstanding case

These are just a few threads here about crashed ufos.

Now we have to ask ourselves, Are these really UFO’s that are crashing? Or something else?




posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:29 AM
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The first one you posted is false, if you had read the thread you would know that.

The rest? Don't know! I lost interest after the first one.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by Chadwickus]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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Who says they are crashing? Have you ever entertained the thought that they might be getting shot down?

Perhaps many of them are our top secret technology that has simply malfunctioned as well. I would be willing to bet this happens a lot.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:31 AM
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me a buddy of mine had this exact same conversation the other day..

no matter how advanced ones technology is.. it would still
have moving parts.. fallible and maybe even imperfect...

plus.. I would imagine that they create some serious heat.

and just because they are advanced.. doesnt mean they are PERFECT..

right?



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
The first one you posted is false, if you had read the thread you would know that.

The rest? Don't know! I lost interest after the first one.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by Chadwickus]


I'm not debating whether or not each thread is a real event. I did a search on ATS and listed the first few threads relating to crashed UFO's. There is 11 pages of threads about crashed ufo's and I'm only mortal, and don't have infinite time on here to do the research that would satisfy you.

*edit to add* would it surprise you if all alleged ufo crashes are hoaxed? or just misidentified?

[edit on 25-7-2008 by LDragonFire]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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I think that most are probably known aircraft crashes not UFO's
the first picture was debunked.

Supposedly in a book I read I think it was
Alien Agenda "I could be wrong I read so much "

It was proposed that rosswell was not an accidental crash in fact there was a claim that the craft was brought down by focusing the then new type of radar on it which disrupted it's mag lev anti grav system and crashed.

That made me think about other ways of bringing the supposed UFO down.
think about it.

SLAY



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:42 AM
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Who says they are advanced?
All the ones that have been crashed/shot down could be ours? (human in origin)



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:44 AM
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Ahh but people do spend the time to scour through these threads.

What i'm getting at is the first link was the most recently discussed and debunked crash story, what it appears is you cut and pasted the search results.

Now I realise what you're saying is there seems to be a lot of UFO crashes. I actually think it may tie in with another thread being discussed here: www.abovetopsecret.com...


Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by fleabit Just a guess though.


Not bad People always assume that just because they are here means they have to be experts


One thing though energy is normally in waves...

It might be the erratic motion has something to do with the wave pattern of gravity waves... almost like they are 'surfing' them and when they cross from one wave to another you get 'turbulance'

In other words they have trouble in our atmosphere
as yo say...

BoB Lazar talks about the Gravity A and Gravity B waves generated by the drive ans E 115... everyone calls him crazy

Yet we are now creating E115 in the labs and NASA is showing us pictures of Gravity Waves by the effects they have on clouds...



So why are they flying like they are drunk?

A) Because the Earth's Oxygen is to rich and it makes then giddy...
B) They ARE drunk... (all that cow's blood
)
C) Turbulance due to fluctuations in the gravity waves and interaction with the drive created anti gravity system..

I think I will go with C





Now armed with that thought, this might explain why there are so many crashes.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:47 AM
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It's those damn interstellar cell phones! They should be outlawed!

Ever since Sprint Universal came out with their All-in-one voice/data/tachyon plan for $999,999,999.00 per month they greys have gone crazy with the cell phones.

I don't care whether it's Romulan Ale or a phone, they simply should not be allowed to fly while distracted.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus

" I think I will go with C
"

Now armed with that thought, this might explain why there are so many crashes.


Exactly my opinion, They are either bieng brought down by nature or we have found a way to disrupt their propulsion either way it could explain alot



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:48 AM
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yeah just because they are really smart doesnt mean they dont fall asleep or mess up or maybe something happening in our atmosphere mess up their ships????



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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yeah sure they manage to travel lights years across the galaxy or through other dimentions but have a breakdown when they get to earth? LOL



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by yeti101
yeah sure they manage to travel lights years across the galaxy or through other dimentions but have a breakdown when they get to earth? LOL


by comparison with our tech:

What a 747 can't fly around the world then crash land say in Paris or Madrid?

I say it's possible



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 10:56 AM
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Well, technically, an UFO crash is an impact of something unknown with the terrain: so, since the list of what could have crashed is huge, it's huge also the list of alleged crashes


For example, here's a list of alleged UFO crashes that you can find all over:



10,000 BC Sino-Tibetan Border The stunning story of the Dropas.
2,000 BC Grand Canyon, AZ A file from UFO BBS. Tabloid story.
840 Lyons, France Not a crash, a hoax. 4 human falsely claimed to come from the clouds.
1561 Nuremberg, Germany An illustrated case.
18th Century Germany Montanus tells of flying magicians shot down.
1864 September Cadotte Pass, Missouri Original newspaper article of 1864.
1884 June 6 Holdredge, Nebraska Inconclusive but quite interesting.
1884 December 13 Sorisole, near Bergamo, Italy
1897 April 17 Aurora, Texas Hoax almost certain.
1897 April 19 Leroy, Kansas, USA Hoax almost certain.
1907 Burlington, Vermont, USA
1908 June 30 Tunguska River, USSR
1909 December 22 Chicago, Illinois, USA Airship crash report, debris never found.
1910/1915 Puglia Italy
1923 Quetta, Pakistan
1925 Chevy Chase, Maryland, USA
1925 Sept/Oct Polson, Montana
1930 Mandurah, West Australia
1933 Italy
1936 Black Forest, Germany
1938 summer Czernica, Poland
1941 West of San Diego, Ca
1941 Spring Cape Girardeau, Missouri
1941 July 4 Tinian Island, Oceania
1945 approx. UK
1945 Mataquescuintla, Guatemala
1946 Date and location unknown
1946 Magdalena, NM
1946 July 9 Lake Barken, Sweden
1946 July 10 Bjorkon, Sweden
1946 July 18 Lake Mjosa Sweden
1946 July 19 Noon Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden
1946 August 12 SW Sweden
1946 August 16 Malmo Sweden
1946 mid-October Southern Sweden
1947 January Papagos Indian Reserv. AZ NEW
1947 May Spitzbergen, Norway Newspaper articles, cover up, 17 bodies.
1947 May 31 Socorro, New Mexico
1947 July Near St. Joseph, MO
1947 July 4 Roswell, New Mexico, USA The well known Roswell affair. 4-5 bodies, one alive ET?
1947 July 5 Plains of San Augustin, New Mexico, USA
1947 July 31 Maury Island, Tacoma, USA Complicated almost certain hoax.
1947 August 13 Hopi Reservation, Arizona
1947 October 2 Cave Creek, Arizona, USA Very little information.
1947 October Paradise Valley, Arizona, USA
1947 October 20 San Diego
1948 Kingman, Arizona, USA
1948 February 13 Aztec, New Mexico, USA Controversial, 2-12 alleged bodies.
1948 April 12 Outside Aztec, New Mexico, USA Same as underneath?
1948 March 25 Aztec, New Mexico, USA Controversial. 12 alleged bodies.
1948 March 25 White Sands, New Mexico, USA Same as above?
1948 7/8 July Near Laredo, 38 miles inside Mexico Bodies recovered.
1948 August Laredo, Texas, USA 1 body recovered
1949 Roswell, NM, USA Not the famous case of 1947.
1949 August 19 Death Valley, California, USA Story by 2 prospectors, 2 beings espace alive.
1950 (before) Near Mexico City, Mexico Second hand witness.
1950 January Mojave Desert, California, USA
1950 February 10 Copenhagen, Denmark Farmer witness UFO explode.
1950 March? New Mexico, USA FBI memo mentions recovery of 3 crashed saucers.
1950 April Argentina Bodies not there anymore on next day
1950s (mid) Birmingham, Alabama Single witness case.
1950 May 10 Bahia Blanca Province, Argentina
1950 September 10 Albuquerque, Texas, USA 3 bodies.
1950 December 6 El Indio/Guerrero area, Tex-Mex border, Texas, USA
1951 Summer Sierra Madre, Mexico Anonymous story, bodies and UFO recovery.
1952 July Washington DC, USA
1952 July 23 Pueblo, Colorado, USA Admitted hoax.
1952 August Ohio, USA
1952 August 14 Ely, Nevada, USA 16 bodies recovered.
1952 September 9 Spitzbergen, Norway Probable mystification.
1953 Brady, Montana, USA Recovery of bodies by military, tabloid invention.
1953 April 18 South-West Arizona, USA
1953 May 20 Western Utah, USA
1953 May 20/21 Kingman, Arizona, USA Reliable witness, 2 bodies.
1953 June 19 Laredo, Texas, USA 4 bodies.
1953 Summer Fort Polk, LA, USA
1953 July 10 Johannesburg, South Africa 5 bodies.
1953 October 13 Dutton, Montana, USA 4 bodies.
1954 (Spring) Matydale, New York, USA Police denies incident.
1955 Eucla, Australia Newspaper tells of 3 young men seeing UFO crash and taking picture of horny occupant.
1955 July Vestra Norrland, Sweden Science-fictionesque supermarket tabloid tale.
1955 May 5 Brighton, UK 5 bodies. Hoax.
1957 July 18 Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA 4 bodies.
1957 September 14 Ubatuba, Brazil Physical evidences, fragments analyzed.
1957 November 21 Reasty Hill, Scarborough, Yorks
1958/1959 Woomera, Australia
1958 Utah desert
1959 Undated Italy, North of Rome
1959 Undated Conser Lake, Oregon, USA Unverified rumor without documented origin.
1959 Georgia A UFO explodes and a "dead monster" is found, allegedly.
1959 January or February 21 Gdynia, Poland Probable rumours without base.
1959 January or February 21 Frdynia, Poland Body and parts. Same case as above.
1959 September 17 Wormer near Amsterdam
1959 September 26 Near Moscow A crashed disk and a 0.80 meter-tall humanoid, dubious.
1960s offshore Spain
1960s Great Sand Dunes, Co
1960 March New Paltz, New York, USA Alien dies 28 days later.
1961 Timmensdorfer, Germany Claimed by former NATO man
1961 April 28 2am. Lake Onega, Karelskaya, USSR.
1962 June 12 Holoman AFB, New Mexico, USA 2 bodies.
1962 Otero County, NM
1962 April 18 Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Impressive events.
1963/1972 Australia, 12 recoveries
1963 July 16 Charlton, UK
1963 December 10 Cosford RAF, UK Alleged crash cover-up on RAF base.
1964 November 10 Fort Riley, Kansas, USA 9 bodies
1965 January San Rafael, Argentina Apparently of the rumour type.
1965 December 9 Kecksburg, Michigan, USA Very famous controversial case.
1965 September Kandalasha, Russia No credibility.
1966 October 26 Arizona, USA 1 body
1966 November Otocoek, Slovenia 1 body. Probable hoax, surfaced in 2005, no witnesses available for investigation.
1967 January South-West Missouri, USA 40 inches disc
1968 February 12 Orocue, Columbia US say 'satellite debris'.
1972 July 18 Saharian desert, Morocco 3 bodies.
1973 July 10 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies.
1974 Llandrillo, Clwyd, Wales, UK
1974 November 9 Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA Hoax or cover story?
1974 May 17 Chili, New Mexico, USA UFO moved to Kirtland AFB.
1974 August 25 Chihuahua, Mexico Disc crash
1976 May 12 Desert, Australia 4 bodies.
1977 April 5 South-West Ohio, USA 11 bodies.
1977 June 22 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies.
1977 August 17 Tobasco, Mexico 2 bodies.
1978 May 6 Padcaya, Bolivia Search team finds nothing.
1978 Ocean off Finland, USSR USSR army rcovers bodies.
1978 November 10 Lebannon
1982 China Army recovers crashed UFO deserted by occupants in the Gobi Desert. Hoax
1988 Russia Hill 611: debris recovered, analysis, conclusion: ET craft.
1988 November Afghanistan 7 bodies.
1989 Cap Ontario, Canada
1989 May 7 Kalahari desert, Botswana, South Africa (Hoax or controversial)
1989 Siberia 9 alive
1989 September 28 Smith's Point Beach, Long Island, New York, USA
1990 September 2 Megas Platanos, Greece
1992 April Niagara Falls, USA Recovery by Army in front of witnesses
1992 November Long Island, New York, USA UFO Network is investigating.
1994 Birmingham, U-K.
1996 January 20 Varginha, Brazil Alleged capture of aliens by the military.
2000 August 27 Balochistan, Pakistan Newspaper report ufos and ufo crash.
2006 November Bahia, Brazil A flying saucer seen on a truck, probably just an ordinary transport of an ordinary industrial part.
2008 May 27 Phu Quoc, Vietnam Media call it UFO, but it is probably a small plane or drone.

www.ufologie.net...

But the list is so long because is made by real UFO crashes (where for real i mean actually unknown objects), misinterpretations, hoaxes and likely secret aircrafts: well, some of them are really intriguing cases. Honestly, all the lists that i have seen so far are impressive: i'd like to know more about some of them, but the cases are so many that i have no clue from where to start
.
Thanks for sharing


[edit on 25/7/2008 by internos]



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:05 AM
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There could be various explanations, here are a few loose ideas:

1) Crashes are very rare or non existant but disinformation is common.

2) It is human black ops being shot down, either by other humans or by aliens.

3) UFO's could be pushing the envelope with high risk missions that tax their available technology to the limits and beyond.

4) Aliens could be advanced but not that advanced and their technology could have higher failure rates than we expect.

5) UFO's could be throwaway probes that aliens are not too concerned about losing (linked to point 3).

6) There could be a war going on, either with humans or between aliens.

7) There could be an overwhelming amount of alien ships in the sky and what seems like a lot of crashes is actually a very low failure rate. This situation is visible with commercial airplanes, quite a few crashes a year but there are millions of flights.

And probably a few other explanations I haven't thought about. It's hard to come to a firm conclusion when there are so many unknown variables.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Oh come on, give the poor aliens a break, they get drunk sometimes too.

Or maybe, theyre really only here for the beer?



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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sheesh - i do not even beleive that these ` UFO crashes ` are valid events

but the OPs logic is flawed none the less , for the following reasons :

1 ANY technologicaL [ SPACECRAFT ] system - however advanced CAN fail .

2 ANY human interface[ or in this case alien interface - assumption made that they are manually piloted ] can fail - die to incompetance , negilgence etc etc

3 statistical probalilities , percentages and randomness tacking into account points one and 2 combined - then for a given number of ALIEN CRAFT flights then there will be a given number of mishaphs [ expressed as crashes / 1000 visits ]

now as we do not actually accuratly record the number of alleged alien visits - we cannot calculatethe correct number of crashes / 1000 visits

unlike say for ailine travel where we know the number of passenger / miles flown world wide / hear - and that only a tiny / of flights end in crashes

you cite only the number of claimed crashes - which does not allow for any meaningfull analysis

also you need to know who is flying these alleged alien craft -

as a terrestrial example quantas has never had a crash landng - or fatality - despite using identical aircraft types to other major carriers

why ? a combination of outstanding staff training and maintanance standards and LUCK

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE ALLEDGED ALIEN CRASHES ARE NOT THE ALIEN EQUIVILIANT OF AEROFLOT ?

see - simply citing a number of alledged crahes when you do not know who was operating them , why they crashed or what the rate of crashes are

is absolutly meaningless



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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I'm not sure I agree, First I have doubts that they are visiting us in the numbers relating to sightings. People see something up in the sky that they can't id then there is another UFO sighting.

As for the oxygen argument surely they have there own atmospheres inside there ship!

As for gravity you would think if they have mastered interstellar travel that surely our atmosphere wouldn't pose much of a problem.

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I find it interesting that before the 18th century there are only 4 sightings.

6 sightings in the 18th century

11 sightings between 1907 and 1936, the look at how many sighting have occurred since, could our media have something to do with this? Comic books, movies.

I like this one:

2006 November Bahia, Brazil A flying saucer seen on a truck, probably just an ordinary transport of an ordinary industrial part.


I have seen objects in the night sky that I could not identify. But if aliens are visiting us in the numbers relating to all the sighting, then coming here is nothing new to them, and should not pose much of a problem for them.

Unless they are incompetent. Or is this a media induced craze?

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Good post



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:11 AM
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As probably has been answered already it comes down to common sense. More advanced doesn't mean invincible. Plus, what about the hypothetic 'reversed engineered' craft made by our own governments? What if a good portion of the crashes are simply our own that we didn't get quite right?

You see, this doesn't prove or disprove anything. Unless of course you were trying to get at the fact that maybe these are ours instead of 'theirs'.



posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by dariousg
As probably has been answered already it comes down to common sense. More advanced doesn't mean invincible. Plus, what about the hypothetic 'reversed engineered' craft made by our own governments? What if a good portion of the crashes are simply our own that we didn't get quite right?

You see, this doesn't prove or disprove anything. Unless of course you were trying to get at the fact that maybe these are ours instead of 'theirs'.


Well if you had a experimental military aircraft crash, what is the logical next thing to happen?

The military will show up and clean up there mess.



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