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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 04:43 AM by mental modulator
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Here Here - I like when the left and right all want to do a similar thing.


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 04:46 AM by space cadet
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One doesn't need realtytrack or any other institution to realize the catastrophe that is unfolding in the mortage/housing industry, drive up any street in your own city, they are everywhere. Empty houses, empty dreams, even the newest are just sitting there.



reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 05:03 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Stay away from land contracts...you have no rights to the property until you are paid off!!!

Get a fixed rate loan, or don't bother getting one. If the bank owns the house, they can get you a decent rate...in order to get it off their books, as will any seller if you have a job and pay your utilities on time.


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 05:22 AM by ofhumandescent
You go to a bank to borrow 'money'. Or you think you do. In fact, the 'money' is merely figures typed into your computer account. It does not exist, except as figures in a computer program. The banks are allowed to 'lend' at least ten times what they have on deposit - but this 'deposit', too, is only figures on a screen. There is no 'money', it's all an illusion.

But in return for 'borrowing' this created-out-of-nothing 'money' you must sign over your property, land or business, which is then owned by the bank until you have paid them back the nothing they 'loaned' you, plus interest. If you don't pay back the nothing the banks get your property, land or business.

And even while you are paying back the 'loan' this property - YOUR property - is considered an asset of the bank and they can 'lend' ten times its value to anyone else who wants a loan. In any other language it is called 'fraud'.....David Icke


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"If the American people ever allow PRIVATE banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks will deprive The People of all property until their children wake-up HOMELESS on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to The People, to whom it properly belongs".
--- Thomas Jefferson


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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 05:32 AM by ofhumandescent
If you feel you are confused over how money is created and how the scam works, despite articles you have read, videos you have watched and research that you have done, it is not because you are 'stupid', but that this system stems from sophisticated criminal minds, and if you don't have a criminal mind yourself, or are very good with figures, it can be very hard to comprehend. However, this video is excellent in explaining the whole concept simply. A MUST-SEE for everyone on this planet! Wes Penre - by Paul Grignon, 2006 -


- It has been called "the most astounding piece of sleight of hand ever invented." The creation of money has been privatized, usurped from Congress by a private banking cartel. Most people think money is issued by fiat by the government, but that is not the case. Except for coins, which compose only about one one-thousandth of the total U.S. money supply, all of our money is now created by banks. -
- by Ellen Brown, July 03, 2007 -


How could I enjoy sipping champagne, by the pool, on my private island, knowing that the dispossessed are dying for lack of clean drinking water? 1.2 billion malnourished children do not appear to prick Baron Rothschild’s conscience. Half the globe is laid prostrate on the ground, barely surviving and unable to progress, because Rothschild’s are hording all the gold. -
- by Hazel W.M. McKinlay


"Let me issue and control a nation’s money, and I care not who writes it’s laws." Mayer Amschel Rothschild (Banker) 1790

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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 05:38 AM by ofhumandescent
MORE DISASTROUS THAN PEARL HARBOR
Since that "day of infamy," more disastrous to us than Pearl Harbor, the small group of "privileged" people who lend us "our" money have accrued to themselves all of the profits of printing our money' - and more! Since 1913 they have "created" tens of billions of dollars in money and credit, which, as their own personal property, they then lend to our government and our people at interest. "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer" had become the secret policy of our National Government. An example of the process of "creation" and its conversion to people's "debt" will aid our understanding.

THEY PRINT IT - WE BORROW IT AND PAY THEM INTEREST
We shall start with the need for money. The Federal Government, having spent more than it has taken from its citizens in taxes, needs, for the sake of illustration, $1,000,000,000. Since it does not have the money, and Congress has given away its authority to "create" it, the Government must go the "creators" for the $1 billion. But, the Federal Reserve, a private corporation, doesn't just give its money away! The Bankers are willing to deliver $1,000,000,000 in money or credit to the Federal Government in exchange for the Government's agreement to pay it back - with interest! So Congress authorizes the Treasury Department to print $1,000,000,000 in U.S. Bonds, which are then delivered to the Federal Reserve Bankers.

The Federal Reserve then pays the cost of printing the $1,000,000,000 (about $1,000) and makes the exchange. The Government then uses the money to pay its obligations. What are the results of this fantastic transaction? Well, $1 billion in Government bills are paid all right, but the Government has now indebted the people to the Bankers for $1 billion on which the people must pay interest! Tens of thousands of such transactions have taken place since 1913 so that by the 1980's, the U.S. Government is indebted. to the Bankers for over $1,000,000,000,000 (trillion) on which the people pay over $100 billion a year in interest alone with no hope of ever paying off the principal. Supposedly our children and following generations will pay forever and forever!

AND THERE'S MORE
You say, "This is terrible!" Yes, it is, but we have shown only part of the sordid story. Under this unholy system, those United States Bonds have now become "assets" of the Banks in the Reserve System which they then use as "reserves" to "create" more "credit" to lend. Current "fractional reserve" requirements allow them to use that $1 billion in bonds to "create" as much as $15 billion in new "credit" to lend to States, Municipalities, to individuals and businesses. Added to the original $1 billion, they could have $16 billion of "created credit" out in loans paying them interest with their only cost being $1,000 for printing the original $1 billion! Since the U.S. Congress has not issued Constitutional money since 1863 (over 100 years), in order for the people to have money to carry on trade and commerce they are forced to borrow the "created credit" of the Monopoly Bankers and pay them usury-interest!

AND THERE'S STILL MORE
In addition to the vast wealth drawn to them through this almost unlimited usury, the Bankers who control the money at the top are able to approve or disapprove large loans to large and successful corporations to the extent that refusal of a loan will bring about a reduction in the price that that Corporation's stock sells for on the market. After depressing the price, the Bankers' agents buy large blocks of the stock, after which the sometimes multi-million dollar loan is approved, the stock rises, and is then sold for a profit. In this manner billions of dollars are made with which to buy more stock. This practice is so refined today that the Federal Reserve Board need only announce to the newspapers an increase or decrease in their "rediscount rate" to send stocks up and down as they wish. Using this method since 1913, the Bankers and their agents have purchased secret or open control of almost every large corporation in America. Using that control, they then force the corporations to borrow huge sums from their banks so that corporation earnings are siphoned off in the form of interest to the banks. This leaves little as actual "profits" which can be paid as dividends and explains why stock prices are often depressed, while the banks reap billions in interest from corporate loans. In effect, the bankers get almost all of the profits, while individual stockholders are left holding the bag.

The millions of working families of America are now indebted to the few thousand Banking Families for twice the assessed value of the entire United States. And these Banking Families obtained that debt against us for the cost of paper, ink, and bookkeeping!

THE INTEREST AMOUNT IS NEVER CREATED
The only way new money (which is not true money, but is "credit" representing a debt), goes into circulation in America is when it is borrowed from Bankers. When the State and people borrow large sums, we seem to prosper. However, the Bankers "create" only the amount of the principal of each loan, never the extra amount needed to pay the interest. Therefore. the new money never equals the new debt added. The amounts needed to pay the interest on loans is not "created," and therefore does not exist!

Under this kind of a system, where new debt always exceeds the new money no matter how much or how little is borrowed, the total debt increasingly outstrips the amount of money available to pay the debt. The people can never, ever get out of debt!

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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 11:43 AM by Morningglory
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We initially bought our home on a land contract. We signed our first contract with the owner after we had rented the house for a year. We signed a rent/option contract where part of our rent went towards the down payment. After a couple years we signed a land contract with the owner to purchase the house. We met with him at a local abstract company agreed to terms. Our hope was we would eventually qualify for a conventional mortgage, which we did acquire after a few years. There was never any mention of this when we signed the land contract. There was never a deadline where we had to acquire a conventional loan. The owner was willing to carrying us for the full term with a balloon payment at the end to pay the interest.

Lucky for us this owner wanted rid of this house. He could not sell it through normal channels, as it was a vacation home not yet finished. We bought an “as is house” the owner did at least put carpet in. In order for him to sell conventionally he would have spent more than it cost to build the place. The owner built the home with his son's. The realtors had told him in order to list it with them he was required to install central heating, as opposed to the wood stove, he would have had to add a bath and close up the loft room so it could be considered a 3rd. bedroom. He was simply getting too old to keep building on the house and just wanted out. He worked with us and was a good man. Everything went well. I think it might depend on the seller how well this arrangement works. Just have everything in writing you both must agree on terms if the seller is desperate it could work in your favor. The abstract company made sure everything was legal and above board. Our house payment was $200.00 per month. After going conventional we took out some equity for my husbands business this raised our payment to $300.00 per month, which is what we pay now.

We have loved our home. We have done a lot of work and settled for less. Our home was livable from the get go. We had all the plumbing, electrical and water/sewage systems in place. It was just interior stuff mostly. We never got the second bath. Just as well I hate cleaning the one. We never got the central heating but love the wood stove. Our loft room is still open and it stays so toasty up there in the winter we have an open floor plan with a ceiling fan so heat circulates throughout our house. We live on 5 acres but have access to hundreds as the land development we bought into went bankrupt many years ago so most of this land is vacant.

There are some really beautiful vacations homes here that sit empty except for the pack rats and mice that now inhabit them. Certainly many of you have outlying rural areas that might have homes in similar standing. Many of the owners just want out the up keep is killing them, as are the taxes. Many are not finished enough to go conventionally. It's worth looking into.

While we will never get rich off our home that was not the intent we just needed someplace to live and wanted to live in the country. Our home is now worth 4X's the initial value even in this market but we will stay put and hopefully ride out this economic nightmare.

I am so saddened that so many are finding they are caught up in this horrible situation. It is my feeling that after the weather gets bad and school starts the full impact of all this mess will hit hard.

All the homeless from foreclosures what will they do? When our son rented his first apartment his credit was not yet established enough so we had to co-sign. I do believe most apartment complexes do credit checks if you have a home in foreclosure I wonder if you would be considered for a rental?

Stars for ofhumandescent for telling it like it is!


reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 04:57 PM by jefwane
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That depends very much on the state you are in and what type of loan you are in. In non-recourse states if you walk away from a loan the bank gets the property you get a credit hit that's it. In non-recourse states first money purchase loans are always non-recourse. Most refinances are recourse so if you cash out then walk and the bank sells at a loss they can come after you, but they often don't. There are also tax implications to short sells. Anyone considering walking away from a loan should consult both an attorney and an accountant to advise them on repercusions.
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