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Topic started on 24-7-2008 @ 11:38 PM by L.HAMILTON
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First taped on a live Fox video of the Shuttle Columbia's disaster in 2003... www.youtube.com... It is taped again in
2005... www.youtube.com... And in 2008, this time taped at night.. www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 11:52 PM by DocEmrick
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Those videos (be they real) are some of the clearest I've ever seen of a true UFO. I do not recall seeing that clip with the Space Shuttle disaster.
Awesome find. The third one is particularly astounding, especially at night. It almost looks like it's two pyramids slapped together. Pretty cool
stuff. Question is, is this a new race of aliens? "Hey check out these earth people, word is they have souls and once they die they're the most
powerful beings in the galaxy." "Oh snap let's get down there."
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 12:23 AM by L.HAMILTON
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I remember watching this same FOX coverage of the Columbia at the time and seeing the taped UFO. Although it was shut down imediately.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 07:58 AM by NephraTari
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First 2 look relatively realistic, the third video however I have seen before and it looks really fake. Can we verify the news footage is legit?
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 08:19 AM by Fastwalker81
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Interesting find.
I cannot watch the videos at this time (damn Internet security at work
 ) but the title caught my attention because of the reference to a diamond shaped UFO.
This is a radar image taken by F16 interceptor fighters chasing a UFO:
Radar Image
Notice the diamond shape?
[edit on 25/7/08 by Fastwalker81]
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 08:23 AM by Psychopump
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These are indeed very interesting. the movement of dark lines on the third video kind of freaked me out. I have the feeling I have seen that before
but do not know where.
I guess the Annunaki are watching their ´crops´.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 09:44 AM by rocksolidbrain
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IMO, all three clips show some bright object which is distorted due to it being out of focus. The bright object assumes a shape of aperture or such
when out of its focusing and zooming capabilities.
Its not diamond shape, it appears to be one.
These examples are taken from :
www.diyphotography.net...
image source: http://www.diyphotography.net/files/images/heart-bokeh.jpg
image source: http://www.diyphotography.net/files/images/regular-bokeh.jpg
The third vid is a ridiculous fake. The first appears to be a cut and paste job, where the ufo clip was inserted into the shuttle video. Thats no ET
ship moreover.
image source: http://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full/2005/17/aa2311/img123.gif
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 09:50 AM by antar
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Could someone please superimpose the first 2 vids and see if just the back ground is changed, they seem very similar in movements...
As for the third, I think that one needs to be seperately investigated.
ps Sorry no spell chk this am
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 07:38 PM by L.HAMILTON
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The first video is a live FOX news recording , I doubt there is any superimposing
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 08:48 PM by L.HAMILTON
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So you are saying that FOX news was using one of these aperture devices when covering the Columbia disasters?
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 09:34 PM by garyo1954
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I've pulled stills from both the first two videos you might find interesting.
The first one is from the Fox report.
What is the website being displayed in the upper left corner?
The second video is not so easy to find a clearly defined diamond shape.
This is one frame enhanced:
From the same video, most of the frames look more like this:
Just changing the backgrounds would not account for the difference in size of the objects in the two.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 09:52 PM by L.HAMILTON
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So you are saying that the FOX news coverage of the Columbia had an embeded UFO image ? I remember watching the FOX coverage of the Columbia
showing the UFO briefly before it was imediately shut down.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 10:35 PM by garyo1954
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Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
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So you are saying that the FOX news coverage of the Columbia had an embeded UFO image ? I remember watching the FOX coverage of the Columbia
showing the UFO briefly before it was imediately shut down. 
No, I asked was what www.zdsoft.com was about since I had no clue. It's a "screen recorder that can create high quality screen demo videos in high
resolution but ultra small file size with the smoothest recording experience by using this easy-to-use software."
Source
Whether that video could have been tampered with after it was recorded is a different question, which I'm not prepared to answer.
(I'd need to research the background of that particular footage.)
My focus was to determine, as one poster suggested, 'could the backgrounds have been switched?'
IMHO, I don't think so.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 10:42 PM by 1nL1ghtened
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I totally agree with you ....on the third video...it does appear to be the aperture trying to focus on a bright distant object;
Aperture openings also control depth of field. Smaller aperture openings keep a larger part of the image in sharp focus while larger aperture openings
will keep the subject or focal point pin-sharp while the rest of the image remains blurred. This effect is even more obvious with tele lenses as they
have smaller depths of field than wide- angles
Example of how it works.
But the first two videos appear to show the same object or type of object both taken in daylight...which to me kind rules out the CCD
artifacting of the image as the light isnt too intense.
1st video
2nd video
Curious to say the least ...i'll look into it a little more.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 10:52 PM by SonicInfinity
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The first thing I thought was that the UFO in the 2nd video was from the 1st video put in the second video via some advanced editing programs. Is
there anyway to tell if they are indeed the same?
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:07 PM by 1nL1ghtened
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I have no way of knowing that...with video editing and CGI the way it is today...anythings possible.
However, I will say it isnt likely due to the fact the first video was shot by a Fox network camera (filming Columbia) and the second ...shows
clouds and in a "dusk" setting/lighting. Purportedly the first vid was shot in 03' and the second in 05'..... just some thoughts, anything is
possible and Im by no means an "expert"....just an artist with an eye for this type of thing.
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reply posted on 25-7-2008 @ 11:32 PM by garyo1954
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Has anyone verified that the first video was indeed the original video from FOX news? I haven't located it anywhere other than youtube.
I have located footage from CBS news which is under the heading "Eyewitness Account"
here.
It is markedly different from the FOX footage.
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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 08:39 AM by rocksolidbrain
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Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
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So you are saying that FOX news was using one of these aperture devices when covering the Columbia disasters?

There is no such thing as "aperture devices". There are apertures in all cameras.
In the example above they have used a fancy external aperture to get the effect.
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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 09:18 AM by Psychopump
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Originally posted by garyo1954
What is the website being displayed in the upper left corner?

I´m assuming that as you can post on ATS that you HAVE an internet connection and working browser. Why didn´t you just go and have a look?
For those of you that can´t work out how to visit a URL, the website is for screen capture software. The image was most likely captured with a demo
version of this software, which watermarked the image.
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reply posted on 26-7-2008 @ 10:26 AM by TheEnlightenedOne
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Hmmm, from what I remember on the video of the shuttle disaster, there was what appeared to be an UFO but I don't recall that same footage being
shown.
What I do remember was an object following the trajectory of the pieces of the shuttle in a somewhat circular motion all around the debris.
I don't recall the UFO being as steady as it appears on the first video. The second video although the shape is strikingly similar to the first UFO,
could be an aperture thing, the third it has been discussed on ATS before and as I recall it has already been debunked.
If I could find the original news footage and of good quality to show exactly what I saw on that day I will post it in here.
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