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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 03:29 PM
reply to post by NephraTari

Not to "feed the hoax" more, but the fact that he posted time stamped material that is aprox a month old and said he had 4 or 5 or whatever months to live, would only mean that he died sooner than expected.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 03:39 PM
Thank you, OP.

I await your next post, and video/s.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 03:44 PM
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

That was exactly what I thought as well.. Its like either hitting Play and rwd or fwd on an old fashioned cassette player/recorder.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 04:07 PM
reply to post by awakened sleeper

This is my intuitive accessment of the truthfulness of the OP:

My reading of the person in the SR70 photo is that he does know something that he is keeping a secret. It is eating away at him though. On one level it bothers his conscience. On the other he's not sure if he's going nuts or not. He thinks he may be imagining everything or is worried he's part of a Project MK-ULTRA '___' type of experiement.

The voice in the video does not match that of an engineer educated person. The two people are not the same. The information is not entirely truthful, yet has enough truth to warrant further investigation. There is more to this than meets the eye. The use of the term "Illuminati-like" makes sense as the original form of the "organization" doesn't exist and has mutated so many times between our dimension and that of extra-dimensions that nobody has the entire picture. (Example, ten blind illuminati men holding a part of an elephant would "see" what?)

My "physic" conclusion: I would not dismiss these videos. They have legitimate information that's woven into a mythology that we already have "programmed" within us as Conspriracy addicts. ;-) The purpose of this poster is to convey information, yet keep his identity untraceable. The information is compelling because of the use of the NASA engineer as a cover. He is a red herring. Still, the information is truthful or valuable to the degree that we are able to decipher it and separate the BS from what's authentic. That depends on where we are at in our spiritual/cosmic development.

Suggestion: Find out if the NASA engineer had bone cancer? Did they do an autopsy? What's the report? If there's no bone cancer, then this is a hoax. If there is bone cancer, then then he was murdered using the cover of a ex-lover affair retribution. (Even if the NASA engineer is not legitimate, the videos have relevant information that fits the bigger puzzle.)

[edit on 7/25/2008 by Matrix1111]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 04:10 PM
Is this Scientology? School is out for summer vacation right? My BS meter finally pegged the red line with the second video.

[edit on 7-25-2008 by groingrinder]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 04:29 PM
I must be a sucker. I just wasted my time going completely through this thread.

The first tape should be an indicator. Starts out with the Illuminati which then has nothing to do with the tape.

The voice is disguised for a reason. The tape was supposedly made to be posted after death so fears of being identified is not the reason. More logical would be that the hoaxer is very much alive and hid his voice for that reason. The full name is not given. Assuming this person is over 12 and intelligent they would know that if this were real; the person would give their full name to add credibility or otherwise why bother?

Making a dying declaration but hiding the voice and keeping the name secret? I'm sorry but

Did I remember to say

[edit on 7/25/2008 by Blaine91555]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 04:49 PM
I pay a bleeping license fee to get digital television programs from the BBC.

Now I find that I am transporting aliens through my license fee.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 05:11 PM
second video is very interesting, slightly disturbing thoughts provoking(from where?"heh"), but anyhow i am eagerly waiting for more..

To response on peoples talk on why to hide your voice, I can find the following motive easily. Even if he is or going be dead - later or whatever, you may want to stay anonymous to avoid personal publicity for possible last months and to let your wife or other close ones to avoid possible publicity, come it or not.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by inthemistandfog]

[edit on 25-7-2008 by inthemistandfog]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 05:51 PM
A rehash of everything that's been discussed about Mars, NASA, greys, etc...

You'd think a deathbed confession would yield much more valuable information than just an statement of opinion.

I especially like the NASA worker's pronunciation of Cydonia, which sounds more like Sedona.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:08 PM
to be honest...for someone who have not much time ..and suffering on cancer...
he spend alot time to make these funny using "old film effect" tool and stuff.dosnt makes sense to me...

in my opinion its useless...waste of time

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:15 PM
While watching/listening to the video, I kept seeing that diagram, showing "stuff" in the frontal lobe of the human drawing. And I thought hey, maybe that's why they did lobotomies. lol

And at the end of the video, that doesn't sound like it could be a gray alien. It sounds like my mother on another one of her rampages, telling me what to do and how to live my life.

Now, if grays are 100% telepathic, why would they even make sound? There would be no need. This doesn't add up.

Waiting for more vids. I hate this piecemeal work. Upload it all at once and let us peruse it. Stop drawing out the drama, please.

Edited because I couldn't spell. hehe

[edit on 7/25/2008 by Ceara]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:24 PM
Whoever made the video... must not be the scientist who was murdered because there is a shot of an article that talks about the murders in the video. Hence this video must have been made after Joseph Paul Ciganek was murdered. Also Ciganek worked for NASA for 18 years. (link) The voice in the video states that his name is Jim and he worked for Nasa from 1989 - 2004... 15 years. So the guy who is narrating the video is not Ciganek.

Why would he include a picture of Ciganek and an article of his murder? How is Ciganek involved in all of this? The article referenced in the article has a date of June 25th, 2008, so this video had been made (or altered) since that date.

The OP states he was asked to release this information after the death of his client. Was Ciganek his client? If so, did the OP alter the video to reflect his clients death? If we are to assume that the client has passed away, why doesn't the OP (Samdavidson) simply just state who he is in relation to the video? By being less than forthright in posting more information, the OP is weakening his position.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:43 PM

Originally posted by uplander
Well, I will say this latest video is at least origional.

They exist in our thoughts. Strange indeed. Are we powerless over our thoughts then?

I've said this on numerous occasions and in various posts since I've been here. I believe it was my second thread I started where I said almost the same thing in terms of frequency and change he mentioned in his second video.

They can also adjust YOUR frequency to match theirs for various reason if needed.
They don't need ships to travel, we don't even need one if we have learned a thing or two, and in certain forms they can attach themselves to you for various reasons. Spying, manipulation or most commonly to experience YOUR life...making you do the things they wish to feel.

I was shown this (among other things) in a serious of images one night. Almost like a slide show. Only when I tried to interject my own interpretation did it stop.

There is literally another universe laid over top of our own. It is inhabited by various beings both very humanoid and extremely non-humanoid. Most exist however they choose to visually. They exist in the very same state we exist in upon "death". Dying is shifting BACK to the universe of the "Gods". Now of course what happens after that shift is regulated by various groups and controlled but you see this is why as I said before there is no such thing as death. Not for us and certainly not for them. No "alien" would die in a UFO crash. It is also why some beings do view callously snuffing out our life here as murder. He is right about that.

In spite of all that...various groups still fight each other.

We all need to reevaluate how our minds have perceived other life to be.
We think of everything in such a literal sense when the real universe is any but. There is no time, no space. The world we live in is a constructed lie. A trap for your senses that bind you to it. They are not bound by such things and nor should we be.

LISTEN to the quiet voice inside you. LISTEN to it calling you. PAY ATTENTION to your dreams and figure out what they really are. Who YOU really are.

Look up.

Things are going to change faster than most are prepared for. Ego will be the "death" of them.

I have to say...I wasn't convinced this was authentic, I am still not convinced it is...but what he is saying relates directly to my own experiences and what I have come to know. That doesn't mean I believe this, it could just be someone pulling a hoax that has gleaned tidbits from the various sources and encounters all over the web.

Okay, okay I'll stop now.

Conduit closing.

- Lee

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:49 PM
Ive played with the audio, and I can confirm its an older guy speaking, for what its worth. Anyone think they can figure out who he is from the original voice? If so, click HERE to get it. Sorry its at Megaupload, couldn't figure out where else to host it.

I've tried messing with the Alien at the end of the file, but cant get anything. Almost sounds like a guitar backwards, or an amplifier feeding back, but nothing too specific.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 07:57 PM
A few things...

I'm always weary about these types of threads that are made by a new user, but ok, lets say its true...

a few things...

Why couldnt he just post it on this site?
I mean, he posted it on youtube, a site that gathers much more visits than ATS.

Why disguise his voice?
This just seems silly... He has approx 5 months to live... so he doenst need to be worried of anyone whacking him.
Perhaps to protect his family you say?
ok, but he said he was an ex NASA engineer that has been recently diagnosed with bone cancer... well, that narrows it down... to the bone... pun intended...

Theres no new info that none of us have already collected or could collect...
Upon death I would find it much more convenient to show to the media than ATS...
I dont buy it, sorry.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:06 PM
well heres some info on his youtube account:

Joined: July 24, 2008
Last Sign In: 5 hours ago

lol so someones looking around on youtube.

I guess Illuminati briefings come standard with NASA engineering 101...

hmmmm crazy how he made the youtube account the same day this guy made an ATS account...

[edit on 25-7-2008 by Odessy]

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:06 PM
Okay so I just wasted my time going through 5 pages of ATS 'basher' junk.

The OP isn't asking you to believe the videos, he/she is simply posting the videos at the request of his 'client'. So why not just say thank you for posting the videos and move on.

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:13 PM

Originally posted by lee anoma

They can also adjust YOUR frequency to match theirs for various reason if needed.

They don't need ships to travel, we don't even need one if we have learned a thing or two, and in certain forms they can attach themselves to you for various reasons. Spying, manipulation or most commonly to experience YOUR life...making you do the things they wish to feel....

There is literally another universe laid over top of our own.

I'm into synchronicity. I pay attention to "coincidences." I was just reading a book when I got the "prompt" to go check this thread on ATS. So I take this as an important connection being relayed from "the other side." It should help give validity to what you were saying.

Here's what I was reading:

Perhaps it is time to explain, at least in a simple manner, the ways the different dimensions and overtones are related. This description of dimensions corresponds to the anceient view, but not to the modern view, which sees the first three dimensions as the s-y-z axis of space and the forth dimension as time. Then the modern view continues up the dimensions mathematically as defined by modern science. It is not that the scientific way is wrong; it's just based on different concepts.

What I am explaining is entirely different. In this explanation the universe is seen as purely sound or vibrational and corresponds perfectly to the laws of harmonics. The dimensions are separted from each other in exctly the same proportions that notes on the chromatic scale of music are separated from each other. Instead of cycles per second as in music, for dimensions they are separated by wavelength, but the proportions are the same.

There are 12 major and 12 minor overone dimensions, for a total of 144 dimensions in each octave of dimensions. There appears to be almost infinite octaves of dimensions that keep repeating themselves over and over, except that the experience of them changes as one moves up the dimensions. All dimensions interpenetrate each other, so in the space where you are at this moment, all dimensions are passing through your body.

The universe that we see with the stars and planets is defined as the third (major) dimension within the twelve major dimensions. So the Earth is within the third dimension, but within and around the Earth and the entire universe are twelve overtones of the third dimesnion. Although you cannot see these third-dimension overtones, they are worlds that have been known and experienced by shamans, medicine men and women, and the Ascended Masters for thousands of years.

If a person were to enter into an overtone of the Earth's third dimension, or any other dimension, he or she would disappear from view here on Earth and reappear in another world. This not east to do without great knowledge.

(from Serpent of Light: Beyond 2012, Drunvalo Melchizedek)

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 08:13 PM
if your client really was up there and knew all about this stuff, maybe he could provide us with some actual proof and better explanations to back his claims? how would he know they were wiped out by their technology? what if they vacationed to another planet and never came back? what sort of client of yours is he? why would you do this for him?

sorry im going to have to hold up my hoax flag here... theres just too many holes...

posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 09:13 PM
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Unbelievable...this guy watched Independence Day to many times...nothing more

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