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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:04 PM by argentus
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Completely agree with what you said. Very well expressed. I try to consider the concept of karma in nearly everything I do.

Cheers

Back on topic: OP, if you disappear on us, you are SO gonna incur wrathful karma. Please contact Springer as NefraTari suggested.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:07 PM by ~Lucidity
seattletimes.nwsource.com...

says brain not bone but...

forget it i read it wrong. ugh

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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:15 PM by v1.01
Originally posted by argentus
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I honed in on the "popping balloons" thing too. It kind of makes sense, IF our spirit/sense of self perseveres, and the grays believe they are working from a higher overall view of things....... the long view.

Not to say that I don't still distrust them, becuase I do. Much as I'm sure the cockroaches that scurry around our house fear being stamped out by me, and all the while I think their lives are expendable, as I know they will eventually try to get into the house and crap on my plates. Who is in the right?



it is possible that they also have the ability to repair a balloon. where it's wrong for us to take a life because we can't give it back.. suppose they can give life back? least we forget John Lear's soul catcher on the moon

regarding insects, when i find an insect i catch it and through it out the door. some spiders i allow to stay in my room. i had some fruit fly's and i became a master at catching them

relocation works.. although i do try to kill mosquitos occasionally when they bite if im in a bad mood.. but mostly i blow them off me and swat them down. i don't think other more advanced planets have these bothersome insects like mosquitos... i think they come from some negative aspect that's indigenous to earth.. i also think it's possible we can evolve earth to where we no longer have insects that are parasitic to us.. more like a utopian world.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:17 PM by The Cyfre
The Nasa Scientist was named Joseph Paul Ciganek. He is in the picture on the video. Another picture of him can be found here.

Ciganek was killed by an alien using telepathy, like a psychic attack or something. They probably give us technology for something in return, like inter-planetary carrots and sticks. If the have a sort of robotic sense of humor like the narrator says, then it makes sense their logic would dictate a relationship with humanity while their personal day-to-day actions concerning humans may not be as important to them. If they believe we are all universal and that is the true life in the universe, that we are balloons that can simply be popped, and it's not a big deal, it makes sense to think they would think more ultimately in terms of their agreements with our species of life.

What else... oh! Ciganek was stabbed and beaten to death by a couple of asian dudes. A woman her her two kids were also stabbed and beaten to death, the woman had divorced one of the guys back in 2004.

They haven't established a motive for the killers, and someone who knew one of them made a comment here stating that he was a great person and it was so surprising that he did this.

What else? Oh, if the narrator posted this on July 24th (today) and Ciganek was killed at 5pm on Monday, June 23rd. If the narrator has five more months to live, i'm sure he'll have more.

I couldn't find any information on Sam Davidson but i'm not finished looking.

I'm not making a determination one way or the next, i'm better at doing the research. I will say it reminds me of a rabbit hole, which would be very cool.

Flagged, be back later!



reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:22 PM by argentus
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I do the same for spinx moths, lizards, etc. We have cats and they capture things and bring them inside. I'm about 75% successful in rescuing the various creatures and turning them free again. I live in the tropics and roaches are legion. Spiders I'm fine with -- they eat things I dislike more. Roaches have an affinity for crawling on people. I don't know why, I just know it's true for us. Therefore, they must die when they are inside. And for all of them I've killed and thrown outside, the carcas is never left for long. Lizards gotta eat. Soldier crabs gotta eat. It's an interactive ecosystem I live in, and loving it.

Interesting -- the concept of repairing the balloon. Perhaps sometimes it has to be popped to make it better? I don't know. If your avatar is in any way relational to your temporal age, you are far beyond your years.


Cheers

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reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:24 PM by rapinbatsisaltherage
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I find it interesting that a dying man wouldn't come on here and talk to us on his own. I know he's dead now, but why wait? Seems like a clever way to avoid a heap of questions. Perhaps the lawyer is someone who is still alive and revealing these details. Or they are a hoaxer who was clever enough to make up a story in which the NASA worker wouldn't have to deal with our scrutiny.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:28 PM by Pocky
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That sounds pretty possible. I hope the guy can post more soon. A lot of the time, in those NASA photos, I feel like they look too photoshopped. So it is very possible that like he says, they've been covering up stuff.


reply posted on 24-7-2008 @ 08:28 PM by argentus
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Agree. If the OP doesn't contact ATS admin. then I think that leans heavily toward an opportunistic hoax. The bad part of it is, what if the youtube were real, and an opportunist ruined it by utilizing it as a hoax?

The longer this goes on without input from the OP, the more it makes me sad.

OP, if you're doing the right thing and working with ATS, please just drop us a note, let us know what's going on. We can actually fabricate some patience, if given some data.

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