My client requested that I post this link on this site

New fourth video just posted. It isn't the one that kept dissapearing but it explains a lot more, definitly should watch this one if you have followed this story as it isn't from jim.

So the fourth installment basically tells us from the eyes of this lawyer or whomever, that her client has passed, that his family has put a restraining order against showing more videos and that nothing more will be shown until 10.01.08. The date reminds me (again) of an ARG leading up to a movie release or something along those lines.

The only easter egg here is Lorber and Jakob attorneys at law as it shows on the video.

Jakob Lorber

I have a question to you all about the original fourth video. Now in it there is a set of patterns spinning around. The patterns and probably sound is supposedly seeding your mind so that you have a "specific dream". Now my question is if lets say that is true and the video really does this. Wouldn't the pixilization degrading caused by uploading it to youtube damage the effects of the video? Just something I was wondering. The video is very pixilated but if you let your eyes unfocus a little it becomes smoother but then you tend to lose yourself in the trippyness of the visual affects of the video.

[edit on 1-8-2008 by 1Veritas]

Well, I did a search, as I expect others already have, for Lorber and Jakob, attorneys at law. I found pretty much what I expected to find - the only link that came up on a search for "Lorber and Jakob" - exactly how it's spelt in the video - was the video itself. LOl..

That very final bit on the video where she refers to her personal friendship with the 'deceased' - I'm also pretty sure that any professional attorney would simply not have put anything like that in there, it's superfluous and could potentially compromise confidentiality - they just wouldn't do it.

And that statement about being contacted by folk asking to know who the guy was. Anyone here contact them? Thought not..

So why the fake attorneys?

One possibility that occurs is that maybe they / he / she got caught out with that last one that got put up and pulled down again - like they took it down to tweak it thinking they'd grabbed it back just in time, only to find once they'd changed it that people had copies. I'm just not sure why they'd bother persisting with it, honestly - it's anomalous in itself.

Originally posted by 1Veritas
I have a question to you all about the original fourth video. Now in it there is a set of patterns spinning around. The patterns and probably sound is supposedly seeding your mind so that you have a "specific dream". Now my question is if lets say that is true and the video really does this. Wouldn't the pixilization degrading caused by uploading it to youtube damage the effects of the video? ...

I don't really know but I would imagine that it would.

Doesn't look like we're going to get to compare it with a more recent copy now anyway. Now I get to wonder if the real reason they're not posting it back up is cos folks have a copy and can see whether they've altered it, giving the lie to the whole thing. Didn't they keep the original - or was it just not satisfactory for some reason? To be honest, after we discussed it here I had a feeling that would be the last we'd see of it...

I guess the fake attorney is just a ruse to keep folk guessing while they figure out what to do next.

new video




creepy

[edit on 5-8-2008 by ilali]

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parhaps we will see more post mortem video posts from other people, divulging, flaming, etc

Did have an image of playing blackjack with a drunken Dave Attel at a Las Vegas disco after seeing video number 4, the music there was awful!

funny how much time people have....for doing useless crap

Well I say good job ATS-ers.

I wonder how this would have run if we had all just bit and swallowed rather than the skepticism and analysis that was done?

I think it would have been longer and more elaborate if we hadnt had so many excellent critiques.

Those of us on ATS may have open minds, but that doesnt mean we are absolutely gullible.

Originally posted by BadlyDrawnBud
Well they decided to 100% confirm that these videos were fake with the latest video here:

[snip]

Abit lame for people to do that really....

A warning folks - I just thought I'd have a look at this, to see what they had to say and the vids appear to have been replaced by a load of porn. Now, I really really do NOT want to see that and I'm sure I'm not the only one.



Mod edit - removed video link.

[edit on 15-8-2008 by elevatedone]

That pornish video you're talking about is actually the original video posted hence why we believe the whole story is fake.

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Uh.. I wish someone had explained that BEFORE I had to click on the link. I figured it was probably some folks just going yah boo we fooled you or summat.

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obviously yet another fake.
His "client" who is dead was worried about someone recognizing his voice after his death.... WHY???

Obviously there would be no reason to hide his voice as all the bad guys would need to do is find out which ex nasa scientist recently died from bone cancer... DUH...

There seems to be a lot of these threads started on ATS recently where someone makes wild claims and throws something out there like they can't tell you everything now to keep you in suspense then nothing.

And it all seemed to start with a post about something living underground in tunnels
www.abovetopsecret.com...&flagit=338402#
www.freewebs.com...

what I'm getting at is a lot of these posts seem to have the same writing style.

By the way if you have the time, read the story, it's pretty good

This is something some kid has done on his mac at home.
He's laughing at anyone stupid enough to take this kind of thing seriously.
It's just done so badly. The second video is completely unbelievable we'd all be infected by now if they spread that easily.
He has nothing to say any longer than 3 mins?
I wouldn't look into the references to hard because he's just grabbed a random load of pictures off the internet.
Pathetic hoax in my book.

You people actually believe this... Is the way he talks not a dead giveaway? Come on, he's some 14 - 16 year old kid. Listen to it again...

So whats new? ANYONE could have done this.
To be honest, this sounds like a story made up by some guy begging to have some attention.
Sorry no star or flag for you.

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See ya "nasajim108", See ya "joseph ciganek". Looks like no more "Victor" interviews.

There is something fishy about this whole thing, of course, there could be an alien species on Mars, there is evidence of water on Mars, what looks like riverbeds, so possibly in the ancient past there was indeed life on Mars, and the Greys are the descendents of this life. I get the idea that there was a very advanced Earth soceity, as well as Mars, somehow we are all connected by a common thread. However, interwoven with all this is this very "spiritual" view of things, like we are all dealing with some kind of immense psychological pain, fearful just about everything. Even the Greys and thier philosophy seem to be connected to the various "teachings" about "oneness" and the "creator" etc, not that there is anything wrong with that, but, if there was nothing wrong, then people could just live their lives and die happy.

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And another thing...seeing as they feel nothing about harming or killing others, why didn't the personnel present when the grey at NASA supposedly killed a scientist using it's mind, simply blow the thing away?

They guy in the video say's it's because we wanted their technology...but surely, that technology sharing arrangement would never have been in jeopardy, since killing the grey, would not have mattered to either the grey itself nor others of it's species.

They would have seen it as the grey being released to the universal conciousness, and not murder.

Any species, especially a supposedly technologically advanced species that doesn't care at all about life or the preservation of life, would never survive to become technological in the first place!

They would simply die out.

I think the whole story is fake...made up.

There is no need to hide your identity if you are dying in a few months...what were they going to do to him..kill him?!

In fact, if he was dying of cancer, they would probably have done the bloke a favour if they got rid of him.

Fake in my opinion..anyone can make a video and say what they like. Without any evidence or proof, it's all just so much fantasy.