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My client requested that I post this link on this site

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posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:23 PM
My client requested that upon his death I post a link to the following video:

Thank you.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:28 PM

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:32 PM
I watched the video, and didn't really find anything new.

Is Jim disguising his voice? With 5 months to live what's the point?

I'm not trying to debunk, just wondering.

edit to add: OK so Jim is dead and you posted this now? Will you be posting more?

[edit on 24-7-2008 by seawolf197]

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:33 PM
Interesting. Says that he was going to make more... I guess he was unable to?
Thought provoking. Im still trying to digest it. Thanks for posting this.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:33 PM
Thank you. He said "check back and I'll post some more". Is that single video link the complete set of information you have? Can you provide any additional context or information?

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:34 PM
Nothing earth-shattering in that video.

Where's the good stuff?

Who is the guy in the photo? Is it the same guy who's talking? Maybe not, because why disguise the voice and then plug in a photo.

Or is the photo of the guy one of the guys named in that AP article?

Awaiting more videos. Hope this isn't a one hit wonder.

Why is the fire AP article in the video? What relevance does that have regarding Mars and underground civilizations?

Edit to add: Does your client know anything about the Phobos incident?

[edit on 7/24/2008 by Ceara]

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:38 PM
Some question OP:
1) Who is your client? if you don't want to provide his name, What was his proffession?

2) Who is commenting on the video?
- If it's your client and as you stated earlier he has passed away hence you posting this video, why is the commenter stating he will post more videos?

- If it is your client, why don't you post all of his videos at the same time?

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:38 PM
Wow, great post.
"Wiped out by its own technology"

There is something to be said about death bed confessions.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:39 PM
Very interesting post. I heard in the video that there will be more videos to come? May I ask how many you have?

You are about to be slammed by some very negative UFO/Alien types, please keep posting despite what they say. The bright side is ATS has much experience dealing with these types of posts... and they WILL make sure that this is not a hoax of some kind. Once your post has been confirmed, then the real discussions will begin.

If what you say is true, this is going to blow the lid off of the entire disclosure issue. Thank you for posting... and best of luck.

Here is the obituary shown in the video....
NASA Engineer Among Four Dead In Quartz Hill Fire

One of the deceased was confirmed to be Joseph Paul Ciganek, said Assistant Coroner Chief Ed Winter. He was identified as a NASA engineer who lived at the home.

Ciganek worked at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center as a management systems analyst specializing in electronic test systems, said NASA spokesman Alan Brown. Dryden is located on Edwards Air Force Base.

Picture of Joseph Paul Ciganek...

[edit on 24-7-2008 by yankeerose]

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:40 PM
if they kill via thoughts and killing us is like 'popping balloons' to them....
why would they share any technology with us? how could it be possible to communicate with something that feels nothing about killing, and also does it via thought?! as soon as you say hi, you would be dead.
anyway.. this is an interesting video.. i hope you post more of your client's videos in this thread soon.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:40 PM
SamDavidson..... thank you. I would encourage you to contact ATS admin. and allow them to verify your credentials. Listening to the video, it resonates to me as credible, and I hope there is more. I didn't catch the name of your client, and hope you'll return to give us all more information.

Likely as not, this thread will be beseiged with folks that are highly skeptical, and I think that's part of the best of who we are -- those that require verifiable info and intel. I am no different. What I won't do is insult you, even if I come to disbelieve you. There may be some who say insulting things. Know this: The majority of people on this wonderful site really want to KNOW. Please contact ATS admin. It will go a long way in your not having to repeat yourself, or combat nasty posts.

Thank you again. I'm sorry for the loss of your client. I wish I knew his name. He sounds as a person with a great weight to bear.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:41 PM

Originally posted by Samdavidson
My client requested that upon his death I post a link to the following video:

Thank you.

Um just so we are all clear your client is dead and therefore shall not be posting anything, correct?

It is a shame your client did not know about the Rife machine... I have helped a person overcome multiple myoloma (a form of bone cancer) with it.

Suppressed tech that one.... I wonder if the greys have tech like that??? Probably... Probably why it is suppressed too...

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:42 PM
I think it was the NASA scientist that got killed.... you know the one they were talking about as his photo appeared. A hunch really.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:45 PM
reply to post by v1.01

I honed in on the "popping balloons" thing too. It kind of makes sense, IF our spirit/sense of self perseveres, and the grays believe they are working from a higher overall view of things....... the long view.

Not to say that I don't still distrust them, becuase I do. Much as I'm sure the cockroaches that scurry around our house fear being stamped out by me, and all the while I think their lives are expendable, as I know they will eventually try to get into the house and crap on my plates. Who is in the right?

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:51 PM
reply to post by argentus

I have a spiritual outlook on the purpose of bodies too. In some texts, physical bodies are called "vehicles," as in vehicles for participating on Earth for soul growth and experience. And while the physical body can be killed, what is essentially us does not die. Vessel is another term commonly used.

However, I feel the killing of physical bodies can result in karmic problems for the killer(s) in my opinion.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:52 PM
reply to post by Ceara

I'm pretty sure here's showing the picture of the scientist that is killed in a fire, alluding that it may be a cover up. He mentions a scientist that gets killed by a grey/thoughts. I assumed that is what he was talking about.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by kaffemoka]

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:57 PM
Please contact Springer and talk with him about verifying your credentials.
I really hope for once that you are who you say you are.

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 07:58 PM
I kind of doubt OP will come back... It's just seems like another hoax. OP states his client is dead, but in the video the person with distorted voice tells us "check back I will post some more".

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 08:00 PM

My BS Detectors are flashing and so should every body elses. I'm afraid we've had far to many hoaxes lately for anyone here to even take this remotely seriously.

If you do indeed find yourself taking this seriously - why not hold off on your belief/faith in strangers until we are supplied something a little more concrete by this character.

  1. The one step of separation, i.e; "My Client", "My Grandfather", My Best Friend" etc, is a tired old chestnut.
  2. YouTube Videos Anyone? Now they're reliable! LOL!
  3. No Credentials, No Real Name, Nothing we can verify.
  4. Posting in Installments for maximum attention.

If these aren't screaming caution to you all, then I don't know what will. They are all old and well worn methods to be sure. We've seen it here far to many times before and not ONE has ended up being true. They've all ended up hoaxes!

I'm afraid the burden of proof (though I know some of you don't require it) is squarely on the person posting this thread. Now lets just wait for all the reasons why proof cannot be supplied.

Let's wait and see whether this is just another hoaxer looking for attention. C'mon Op, make me eat my words!


Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof!

I won't hold my breath!

[edit on 24/7/08 by InfaRedMan]

posted on Jul, 24 2008 @ 08:03 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Slon
I kind of doubt OP will come back... It's just seems like another hoax. OP states his client is dead, but in the video the person with distorted voice tells us "check back I will post some more".

Maybe he had these videos stashed somewhere, but then again he did say "post".
Very odd.

Looks like the video was uploaded just 2 hours ago on YouTube.

Maybe he just died 3 hours ago.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by Alxandro]

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