No evidence of aliens or UFOS? Bull.

Most scientists will tell you there is no evidence of aliens or UFOs.

I will debunk the things they all tell you here.

1. All pictures are blurry.

Untrue. The problem is any good pictures are automatically assumed to be fake.

2. All the good pictures are fake, because fakes are so easy to make.

Untrue. If that were true, all movie settings would be freaking green screens!

3. There's no physical evidence.

Not so fast. Alien implants have been taken out of people before, the problem is any scientist who said they were alien would lose their job, credibility or both.

4. All contactees are insane.

Couldn't be any further from the truth. While many are nuts, many are normal and respectable people.

5. All sightings are hallucinations, or waking dreams.

I'm sure some are waking dreams or hallucinations, but that can't explain shared experiences and the cases where physical evidence is left.

The evidence is not absent, science's willingness to consider it is.

bump

What's with the bump? you justed posted this an 15 minutes ago. If other members are interested in this topic they will post. And review the T&C for one line posts.

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Agreed 100%. Damn this site's posting rules.

reply to post by Donnie Darko

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This thread is probably going to go Darko on you Donnie!

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to share some of this irrefutable proof via images. While I think you make some valid points, we are after all a visual society now.

So bring em' on!

Becker

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I've actually seen credible physicians on TV operate, take a piece of material assumed to be metallic in nature out of a human body and tell the TV screen it is a un-known substance, possibly other worldly and they have no idea how it got into said person. Some times they do test that show the object reacting to frequencies.

All one has to do is look up this information, there are youtube videos on it as well.

The trouble is people will come up with anything to counter that it is indeed an alien object removed from someone who was abducted. If we can not prove the circumstances with anything other than witness testimony and the actual object abstracted from a human body this is immediately dismissed as un-credible evidence. Which in my opinion is just silly, but I can't change the way skeptic minds work.

I saw a "UFO" vehicle. Advanced aerial technology is 100% real.

Now I need to see proof of aliens on Earth.

I heard of a story once in which an implant was pulled out someone recently, they deemed it wasn't alien because it was a Pentium chip based implant. I have no sources but I heard it through the grape wine.

Though I do agree with the topic creator.... I think he could have picked some better examples. (FAA data, astronaut testimony, trace evidence, other testimonies, etc)

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

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The UFO Hunters did an episode where they tested the implants. While they are interesting, they are not proof of aliens.
1. They are irregular in shape which is what happens in nature. If they had a square or perfect circle shape, that would be different.
2. They transmit a frequency in the body. The body has natural electric impulses, if they kept transmitting outside the body...

That stated, there are many cases that have physical (landings and burnings on persons) evidence. It needs to be treated seriously by the scientific community.

My reply wasn't about the topic as I know of such cases of implants. My reply was regarding th OP, who is notorious for posting threads for attention, hence the original "BUMP".

On point with topic, what people percieve to be implants of neuronal tissue finely integrated with nerves around them is sometimes a natural occurrence. All of our cells in our body have the same DNA, so brain cells have the same DNA as muscle cells. During replication, as our cells are constantly and rapidly dividing, sometime during division certain parts of DNA are turned on to make neuronal tissue or bony tissue (as what most people who claim to have implants and have removed them found) in what should be a muscle tissue environment.

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I agree. When you look at all the information on UFOs in its entirety, there is sufficient evidence to conclude some UFOs are of ET origin.

I got into a discussion on an astronomy/telescope forum, cloudy nights. Myself and another UFO researcher gave plenty of examples and all we heard was typical debunker arguments and then the thread was locked.

If I were George Soros, I'd spend millions on public service ads telling people UFOs and aliens are real. Somehow I doubt the network would allow it.

Interesting, thanks for the reply.

I should have made it clear in my first post that it is mostly the cases where something is removed coupled with someone who has claimed for years they were (or are being) abducted by alien beings.

Does this prove they have been? No. But when someone says "An alien experimented with my body" and they happen to find strange things inside this persons body I think that warrants attention.

All the evidence we need is out there right in front of our eyes. Ofcourse we have had many hoaxes over the years, but because a lot of the incidents are fakes, and a lot of the abductee stories are hoax stories, it doesn't mean that everyone are. It seems like a lot, not everyone, have a tendense to claim everyone liers just because some are. You should never judge everyone under on hammer, at least thats my opinion.

We have seen so much that can't be explained either way that the proof is inevitable if you just open yourself to the possibility.

Personally I think everyone claiming that there is no such thing as alien lifeforms anywhere in the universe are just as nuts as me on some points. I mean, we, the people of earth, are the best proof of the possibility of alien life... Hell, WE ARE alien lifeforms to the rest of the universe...

Horrible post with absolutely no proof of anything. Coming on ATS and saying thigs are facts because there is proof is just ridiculous. Then bumping your post after 15 mins because no one cares enough to reply?

is there not a thread about, detailing the best cases or photographic evidence because you can search for hours and find non stop pictures of what apear to be frisbees and wheel trims. Its a harsh thing to say but witness just are not enough to make me believe, it could be the pope, ghandi and bob geldof telling me they have seen an alien ship and i would still think they are lying or mistaken.

The astronaught who has recently made claims made me think that is a large step for him but then i looked up a little about him and he is big into the whole supernatural scene and believes a psychic healed his cancer from long distance so for me his claims lose that bit of credibilty. I think if any evidence was good then the world would be more accepting but the truth is there is nothing conclusive so ufos are not looked upon in a serious manner by the mainstream and rightly so, nothing should be accepted at face value. but people should still keep looking to the sky and taking pictures with todays technology so readily available if there is something it will be found soon enough.

just a shame when i look to the sky its usually a rain cloud looking back

So in other words you disclaim the possibility of any sort of alien lifeforms in the universe, and that we - and all of the other species on earth as well - is the only form of life in existence?