Ok so here we have it. Anyone that want to can do a quick google search for alien encounters, ufos and abductions and find all sorts of personal experiences. If you're lucky you'll even find a blurry picture or pixelated wobbley video.

But the thing is, with so many of these so called encounters, why has there never been just ONE single clear close up photo..

I accept the possibility of the whole government coverup theory doing their best to cover up alien existance, but even so that wouldnt stop some sort of media leakage of MAJOR evidence of alien existance surely..

And if you're going to start telling me that aliens are shapeshifters and take human form so as not to be seen, please provide us all with some sort of theory explaining how this is physically possible. Please dont start claiming that aliens can perform metamorphisis because of exceptionally malleable bodies that are supported by a system of fluid filled bladders and the distinct lack of an endoskeleton.

So PLEASE provide me with an answer as to why there is no physical evidence or at least some BELIEVABLE theories on aliens.

I appreciate the lack of real proof can make people skeptical of such alien's existence, and the growing number of hoaxes contributes to people's skepticism, but you can't rule out the possibility Extra Terrestrial life purely because the evidence is lacking in quality.

Acceptance is growing amongst the general population of Extra Terrestrial life, and with a trusted, respected astronaut recently admitting that we are certainly not alone, one must question how people can remain so doubtful.

I respect opinions may differ greatly on this matter, but I think you should open your mind a little.

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maybe they're a lot more intelligent than us, if you think about it theres so much we don't know about the universe, the mind and even the oceans on earth aren't completely explored we still only use our five senses - we're barely out of the trees as an intelligent and spiritual species most if not all humans use less than 10% of their brains.

Im sure they will show themselves on mass when a time becomes appropriate that suits their agenda.

if they are among us then whats to say that they don't use some sort of mass based non malevolent mind control to sort of cloak themselves so as to look human in a crowd of the immediate area - just as a side note a lot of aductees report that they seem to lose their will power and are in a state of complete obeyance ( is that spelt right?) to their abducters.

What a fantastic thread to start!...excellent question.

i will flag and star this for you my freind.

I think this is a good thread....

Getting an answer on a question like this is a bit more difficult though.
Perhaps the answer could be a really easy one, they are experts on removing their traces.... Or they do not leave any trace at all.

As we do not know, now this is a big 'if' they are visiting us, from where they are comming, how advanced they are, who knows if they are advanced enough they could be monitoring alot of people at the same time, for whatever reasons...

However i do not think you will get an answer that will satisfy your curiousity.

There is never "proof" of anything in a scientific investigation, just a lot of evidence that sways opinion one way or another.

It's the same reason scientific ideas are called theories - there could, maybe, be something that violates them we haven't found yet and if so they would have to be revised or thrown out. But it's not likely.

On UFOs and aliens, there is certainly plenty of evidence there of a varying types. Witness reports and photographs are the strongest obviously. It's up to the individual to decide if that evidence is strong enough for them to believe, and until we get some real confirmation (don't call it proof) like spaceship landing in public most people probably won't believe.

There is proof already, close up clear pictures, the problem is its never enough, if its clear its fake, if its wobbly its fake, if its night its fake, daytime its a balloon, Pictures get called fake with no proof of it being faked, why is that acceptable?

Perfectly sane eye witnesses are called liars or mistaken, 100 ft objects become birds, flashing lights on 100 ft objects? they are helicopters or planes with high tech to kill sound, see where im going with this?

Nothing will ever be good enough, but its fine for someone to call witnesses liars without proof they are liars, even pilots, policemen, military personnel are called liars, you know what really grinds my gears?(to coin a phrase from peter griffin) we trust these people every day to protect our lives, we call the police when we are in danger, the military run around armed to the teeth, and pilots fly our families in a huge metal tube full of highly explosive fuel, those who dismiss them dont have a problem with them flying us, protecting us, or fighting for us, so why when they see a UFO (not all alien) are they ridiculed?

Sounds a little like double standards to me, call them liars then use their services. RICH!

So again in answer to your question there is proof, just depends on what you really want to believe inside, if you cant trust those people you will never believe in UFO's. IMO

Thanks for the positive feedback on the thread, glad to know there are more people looking for the same answers as me.

And i think you're right, i probably wont ever find the answers im looking for as i dont think id believe in their existance even if one popped up in front of me and poked me in the eye.

However i cant stand all this blatent fakery and fame seekers that add fuel to the raging fire of alien encounters.

As for evidence, im sure that the majority of us agree that HARD evidence that would be satisfactory would consist of clear close up pictures and or videos.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by skepticsnake]

kidflash, any chance u can post links to any of this 'evidence' for all to see and analyse??

Originally posted by skepticsnake
kidflash, any chance u can post links to any of this 'evidence' for all to see and analyse??

It's easy to find if you just use google. Everything he listed is actually pretty old news and is covered regularly on the various shows the History Channel airs, which almost makes it mainstream evidence. Just google some of his points and you should find the info you're looking for.

There may not be the proof but there is a simple truth...

The government is withholding information on the subject. I don't see how there is much of an argument against that. And if that doesn't tell you that there is something to the whole 'UFO thing' then I think you're looking in the wrong place. IMO.

[Morbo]HUMAN BRAINS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY![/Morbo]
The figure you're looking for is twenty percent, and it's the amount of the brain that's being used at any given time. There is no "unused" portion of the human brain--and using all of it at once is called a grand mal seizure.