[edit on 19-8-2008 by enlighten2012]

Originally posted by Crakeur

we were thrilled to be mentioned in the article and thrilled to learn that a public figure was coming forward as a member. I'm wondering if this will be the catalyst that brings others out of the woodwork. I'm guessing/assuming that there are other high profile members that we are unaware. Other than Springer of course.

i did a post which has vanished so here goes again....

seriously, would you come out of the woodwork here if you were a celeb?
you have been a member here for years and have prob seen many posts get torn to pieces....imagine a public figures?

only one person here can really say wether or not after all these 'fan' posts that it was the right thing to do or not. unfortunately, if he does want to become an active member of ats, he'll have to have another user name. remaining annoymous prob would have givan the member more freedom of expression. if he has an alias already then

Why did chrisonabike came forward and reveiled his identity? I think that is one interesting question. But maybe the answer is not complicated. If he is trying to give answers in the topics he must do this in one end. I think in the other end it is just true… He tries to communicate and to do.. like all the others .. And who knows.. maybe there’s one or more another celeb out in the forum and discuss also… In the end everyone is nearly the same – celeb or not – maybe the non-celebs don’t have so many problems with paparazzi… If he really use one or more another accounts here.. why not.. I think he is not the only one who makes this. If I am him I would do it…
I don’t think that all damages his career...And he described if it is like this, that wouldn't really matter… Maybe his management is not really amused about all this…
Additionally I don’t think that the 'ufo community' will be hurt because of this - on the contrary it will help … because many people start to collect informations about the subject…start to talk about and in the and start to engage..

I think the celebrity-type who tends to kind of feel stalked by just everybody and always hunted by potential fans shouldnt come out with his/her real personality on a public forum. A composure like that would make it difficult for people to interact with such a person as normal as with everybody else.

If a celeb wants to make people pay attention to for example a forum like ats and therefore wants to come out with his/her real name, the celeb should stop apprehend him/herself as the “famous person” and interact with everybody just completely normal like every other member of a community would do. That way, I think the celeb would get the most out of a forum like ats.

Also I think especially on a platform like ats most of the users do not care about someone being a celeb or not, because the ppl here think about more important topics than such as some terrestrial-made-up things like fame, celebs etc…


[edit on 20-8-2008 by milabb.]

[edit on 20-8-2008 by milabb.]

Originally posted by milabb.
Also I think especially on a platform like ats most of the users do not care about someone being a celeb or not, because the ppl here think about more important topics than such as some terrestrial-made-up things like fame, celebs etc…

agreed. I think that, for the most part, our members have treated chrisonabike like they would anyone else. Our content is such that, for the most part, folks enjoy the ability to post behind a pseudonym. I think that this is more true for the folks who post their tales of alien fisticuffs or their time travelling escapades etc.

Originally posted by enlighten2012
seriously, would you come out of the woodwork here if you were a celeb?

depends on the situation. If I thought it might help get the word out on a topic or issue I felt needed more publicity I would. If I thought my coming forward might help in some way I would.

Originally posted by enlighten2012you have been a member here for years and have prob seen many posts get torn to pieces....imagine a public figures?

on the contrary, I think that our members have, if anything, given chrisonabike a bit more leeway with his story. this is either out of respect for his celebrity status or simply because they read his story and didn't find anything that would push them to lash out at him. Truth is, the posts that get the flame treatment are usually outlandish and wild and backed up with more outlandish claims and no means of verification. Robbie's sighting was told with only the story itself being the so called outlandish and wild claim and he had several witnesses to the event. The posts that get the nasty treatment usually involve sex with aliens, time travelling trips with jesus or ordinary folks who beat up aliens. then you have the horrific photos and videos that are harshly debunked. Robbie simply said "I saw something. it was strange. I don't know what it was. My mates saw it too."

hard to treat someone as tho they were trying to pull a fast one on you when, in reality, they never said anything other than they saw something strange.

Originally posted by enlighten2012
only one person here can really say wether or not after all these 'fan' posts that it was the right thing to do or not.

I mentioned it earlier. We've been inundated with posts from his fans. you guys see the off topic tags but you don't see the anonymous posts that are not made live. there are tons of them. yes, he's brought fans with him but some of these fans joined and started poking around and they are now somewhat active on the boards. Rob introduces his fans to something new, some of them enjoy it and become members of the site. Nothing wrong with that. Also, what if one of these fans comes here, pokes around and says "hey, I have those old files grandpa kept from his time in the service and perhaps the folks at ATS will know what to do with them" and then, who knows, perhaps we learn the truth about (insert gov't conspiracy here).

Originally posted by enlighten2012
unfortunately, if he does want to become an active member of ats, he'll have to have another user name. remaining annoymous prob would have givan the member more freedom of expression.

for all we know, he does have another name on the site. I do think that he would be able to post as chrisonabike with little or no trouble from his fans. For starters, they are learning quickly that we monitor our forums seriously and that the best way to talk to Rob is to talk to him about the topic at hand. the posts are no longer "Hi, I saw a ufo. It was glowing. Rob, why'd you sing this song after that song at this arena and when you pointed to the crowd, it was at me right?"

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only one person here can really say wether or not after all these 'fan' posts that it was the right thing to do or not. unfortunately, if he does want to become an active member of ats, he'll have to have another user name. remaining annoymous prob would have givan the member more freedom of expression. if he has an alias already then

In my opinion it is not very helpful to make a double account.
It`s important to take a clear position and for the sake of clarity,
and thats all very well to say that if you`re a celeb, the way I see it.
His interests attract widespread international attention, so I can empathize
with him, simply because being responsible.
But may this is exactly what is to learn...
Most of us have had a spiritual coming-out, and though I´m not famous,
it was often a difficult job to do. You don`t have to have fears to show your authentic identity,
and it even works much better if you respect and (try to) love yourself at first. It`s because
you don`t need the sympathy by any other person. That makes you feel good and free to pave
the way for announcing your truth!

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I wrote earlier in this topic about David Bowie and his songs particular about these themes.....

I think Bowie's got his inspiration those days from the first man on the moon (1969 a space oditty- first walk on the moon)

Nevertheless the songs were great and Bowie also was a fantastic actor.
(I really love "Merry xmas Mr Lawrence"), but let's stay on topic. And

Don't know if Bowie was really interested, guess he did't have internet these days and can imagine ufogology by then was only for those who smoked too much marihuana

I'm sure more (as we call them) celebrities are visiting and posting this site......while reading through many interesting topics on ATS I saw that actor posting( forgot his name but he did some really great acting in movies like Mrs Doubtfire and Death poets society. The guy isn't posting anonymously, maybe because he hasn't got all those crazy fans stalking serious meant topics and posting off topic # which polutes this site!!